LTSA work creation scheme - please assist they need meaningful employment now.

[FastBikeGear]

On a similar note, the AA have a great scam going as well. I went to renew my licence a couple of years ago.

Lady behind the desk: "You need proof of address"
Me: "My address is on my licence"
Lady: "Licence is not acceptable as proof of address"
Me: "This is a government issued document, and I had to provide proof of address to get it"
Lady: "Sorry, not acceptable. Do you have an AA card? Because an AA card is acceptable as proof of address."Me: "Okay, so what proof of address do I have to show you to get my AA card?"
Lady: (Face straight as a die)"None."
Me: "Fuck you" and walked out to see if I could a bill or statement with my address on it, which I did. Fuck you AA.

Yep I love the LTSA's security procedures. Here's another fun example.

When you add a new grade of license you must surrender your old license. They won't let you cut this in half before you surrender it. It is acceptable as photo ID by many organisations except the LTSA and AA (as above). So if the AA receptionist you hand this to has had a bad weekend at the Casino anything is possible from this point in.

Governemt agencies who you entrust with your information often entrust and share your info with other agencies who unlike bank staff have little knowledge or training on identity security.

[firefighter]

Because I would be driving/riding without a car or bike license for 5 months and I am sure this would also invalidate my insurance.

naaaah, just say you didn't recieve any letter, and you can blatantly prove you have a pretty much brand new one, you wouldn't get a ticket/ nor would the insurance company question your licence when you show it to them, they wouldn't even know it had expired. (the mrs made a claim recently and they didn't even look at hers as they'd seen it when they issued the insurance) besides, your new licence won't expire for a while, they'll look at it and be none the wiser.....

[DougieNZ]

You may have to change your acronym's

LTSA hasn't existed for years

LTNZ replaced them

and now they are are called NZTA

New Zealand Transport Agency (a merger of Transit and LTNZ)

[Irontusk]

besides, your new licence won't expire for a while, they'll look at it and be none the wiser.....

The expiry on the new licence is the same as the old, that's what this whole problem is about.

[Swoop]

the expiry date on my license changed when i got my new one with my bike license on it.

Perhaps the overlap of dates happened.
:more detail: Remember that licences are supposed to fall on 5 or 10 year anniversary's of your birthday.
Some of us surrendered our "lifetime licence" and were only issued a 2yr licence, so that renewals would then fall onto the 5/10 system.

[Max Preload]

Great news! I can't wait to get a repsonse from Minister Duynhoven. I assume he will agree that their procedures are a rediculous waste of money and that he will direct commonsense to prevail.

That crazy Dutch bast'd won't lift a finger.

You may have to change your acronym's

LTSA hasn't existed for years

LTNZ replaced them

and now they are are called NZTA

New Zealand Transport Agency (a merger of Transit and LTNZ)

Speaking of jobs, it's a fulltime one just keeping up with the name changes of these inept government departments. I was aware of the change to LTNZ, while there's no website of that name just the old http://www.ltsa.govt.nz and http://www.landtransport.govt.nz, but when did the latest change take place?

[firefighter]

The expiry on the new licence is the same as the old, that's what this whole problem is about.

oh..............

[Tony]

You may have to change your acronym's

LTSA hasn't existed for years

LTNZ replaced them

and now they are are called NZTA

New Zealand Transport Agency (a merger of Transit and LTNZ)

Whups your absolutely right but http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/ works but someone stole the server that was hosting www.ltnz.govt.nz

[Sanx]

That pathetically-stupid, terminally obtuse, bureaucracy-obsessed bearded Dutch fat fucker with an over-inflated view of his own importance won't lift a finger.

Just changed your post a little. Hope you don't mind.

[Max Preload]

Just changed your post a little. Hope you don't mind.

That's what I meant to write, but my keyboard was playing up

[DougieNZ]

Whups your absolutely right but http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/ works but someone stole the server that was hosting www.ltnz.govt.nz

Yeah, you are right... silly stuff I agree.

When LTSA changed to LTNZ, the web address stayed the same ltsa.govt.nz

A bit silly when you want people to accept/understand that the name has changed.

The new site is www.nzta.org.nz

I would imagine that all the LTSA/LTNZ/Transit NZ stuff will eventually merge in to that site. NZTA started 1/8/08

Cheers

[Tony]

I got a reply from the email I sent to Annette King.

Wait for it...

Here it comes...

"Dear Tony (alias)

On behalf of Hon Annette King, Minister of Transport, thank you for your
email dated 28 August 2008 concerning your recently obtained learner
motorcycle licence, and the expiry of your drivers licence.

Your email has been referred to Hon Harry Duynhoven, Minister for Transport
Safety, for direct reply as the issue you raise falls within his portfolio.

You will receive a personal reply from Minister Duynhoven in due course.

In the meantime, may I please have your postal address, so that his reply
can be posted to you?

Thank you for writing.

Anya Zohrab
Private Secretary - Transport
Office of Hon Annette King

Ph: 04 471 9140
Cell: 021 580 198
Fax: 04 495 8445"


Great news! I can't wait to get a repsonse from Minister Duynhoven. I assume he will agree that their procedures are a rediculous waste of money and that he will direct commonsense to prevail.

And I have now received the long awaited response from Duynhoven's office...and here it is..

Dear Mr XXXX

On behalf of the Hon Harry Duynhoven, Minister for Transport Safety, thank
you for your further email of 18 September to Hon Annette King, Minister of
Transport.

You will receive a personal reply from the Minister as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely

Tania Ditchburn
Private Secretary - Transport Safety
Office of Hon Harry Duynhoven
Minister for Transport Safety

Ph: (04) 471 9856
Fax: (04) 472 8052


It's like that TV programme 'Lost' I can't wait until the final installment.

[Tony]

When you add a new grade of license you must surrender your old license. They won't let you cut this in half before you surrender it. It is acceptable as photo ID by many organisations except the LTSA and AA (as above). So if the AA receptionist you hand this to has had a bad weekend at the Casino anything is possible from this point in.

I finally bit the bullet and went and paid to renew my one month old license. Sure enough they asked me to hand over my old license. However the guy behind the counter at AA Westgate agreed to cut it in half - he kept the half with all the details on it and passed me the half with my photo on it. It seemed like that this was a familiar request to him. As always it seems it's evident that it depends on who you strike on just how they interpret their rules.

[Blossom]

So how much did the bloodsuckers sting ya for the renewal and how long is it valid for?

They suck.

[motorbike]

Similar story here, but to further complicate things I can't pass their eye exams so I had to get an optometrists certificate for my 6L. Then another for my 6R (six months later). Then another for my 6F (six months later), then another to renew my Class 1 (4 months later).

Yep, that's four eye exams in 16 months!

i had to do the same thing, but it was like 4 in a month for a trucking course,
now i just say "FUCK IT" and cheat ,close one eye and read it

it even says on the form you fill out you dont need to supply one if you did so in the last 5 years WTF is going on