NZ Police public image

[Lou Girardin]

With my PM saying much the same it should give you an idea of the front-line guys estimation of him 750Y.

Except that his support speed tax collection is definitely not winning the public over.
Don Brash will fix it. If he wasn't unelectable.

[750Y]

I sorta thought that might be the case. he is much more realistic than that guy Hawkins who reminds me of one of the puppets off thunderbirds. man he comes across as being very rigid and a little condescending at times, i always feel a bit deflated after seeing him on tv cos I'm thinking 'ok great, but what about the average cop on the street'? seems a bit 'ivory tower' to me.
I'm just keeping it in line with the public image theme of the thread.
this is only my opinion so try not to flame me, i don't know everything about it.

[spudchucka]

He's saying leave road policing as it is because it has made a difference but increase the resources allocated to general policing.

Its an election year, Brash will say whatever he thinks the public wants to hear.

[spudchucka]

this is only my opinion so try not to flame me, i don't know everything about it.

I have no intention of flaming you....

[idb]

He's saying leave road policing as it is because it has made a difference but increase the resources allocated to general policing.

Its an election year, Brash will say whatever he thinks the public wants to hear.

I heard Brash interviewed this morning and he wants some of the resources taken from road-policing - primarily speeding - and re-allocated to general duties.

[inlinefour]

I heard Brash interviewed this morning and he wants some of the resources taken from road-policing - primarily speeding - and re-allocated to general duties.

I doubt if he really knows what he wants. Probably just trying to save face because of the elections?

[spudchucka]

I heard Brash interviewed this morning and he wants some of the resources taken from road-policing - primarily speeding - and re-allocated to general duties.

He's saying that because he thinks it is what the public want him to say, deep down inside he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

[denill]

He's saying that because he thinks it is what the public want him to say, deep down inside he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

That's your take. But can't disagree with the "it's what the public want him to say" - because that's right and that is what could very well get his party elected. That is just the way it works. Right?

Hey, the HPs here may get to be *real* cops one day........... If Brash gets his way.

[Lias]

Here's one for the police thread..

I just got back from visiting a guy Wolf & I work with at the hospital. He's just had his right hand (main) thumb surgically amputated this morning after having it crushed in the door of a paddy wagon on sunday morning.

His crime? Yelling out "fucking pigs" at a passing patrol car while he was in town. They pulled over, cuffed him, threw him in the paddy wagon and slammed the door on him while he was only half in (and yes he has witnesses). He's a cheeky prick while hes sober , let alone drunk, as am I but he's not an aggro type of bloke or anything.

I'll be the first to admit he shouldnt have abused the cops, but I know I've done exactly the same thing and not even been arrested. Hell worst he deserved was maybe a bash in the cells, but now hes seriosuly crippled, and his future career in IT is in doubt.

Who's willing to bet the thin blue line will close and this will be written off as a "tragic accident" instead of police brutality caused by stressed out and overworked coppers.

[idb]

He's saying that because he thinks it is what the public want him to say

That's a given I'd suggest.
Once the interviewer tried to go a bit deeper it was obvious that there was no deeper.
He had no proposals, figures or targets beyond trying to aim towards (and it really was as fluffy as that - not saying that they would aim for it) for the Aussie ratio of cops per population.
For a supposedly intelligent and principled bloke I'm surprised how quickly he descended into populist politics.

[spudchucka]

That's your take. But can't disagree with the "it's what the public want him to say" - because that's right and that is what could very well get his party elected. That is just the way it works. Right?

Hey, the HPs here may get to be *real* cops one day........... If Brash gets his way.

What makes you think there are any "HP,s" here?

[spudchucka]

Who's willing to bet the thin blue line will close and this will be written off as a "tragic accident" instead of police brutality caused by stressed out and overworked coppers.

Police brutality? Really? Did the cop intentionally jam his thumb in the door or was he still being an idiot as he was being taken into custody? I've seen enough of these types, you know the ones, "instant arsehole - just add alcohol", to know how things like this can happen unintentionally.

[Ixion]

What makes you think there are any "HP,s" here?

I think that there are a couple at least. I've a notion that they enjoy their job (overall anyway), and wouldn't think being sent off to domestic incidents a great advance. Though maybe (I hope) they would prefer to be able to spend more of their time on actually keeping people safe,and improving driving generally, rather than clocking up "contacts" to satisfy the statistics reports.

[Lias]

Police brutality? Really? Did the cop intentionally jam his thumb in the door or was he still being an idiot as he was being taken into custody? I've seen enough of these types, you know the ones, "instant arsehole - just add alcohol", to know how things like this can happen unintentionally.

Well i've worked with him for a year, hung out with him socially on occasion and been on the piss with him a few times, and he's never given me any indication he's an asshole or aggro etc while drunk.. Cheeky for sure, but hes cheeky when sober.. just cheekier when drunk.

I'm sure Wolf could back me up on this, this person isnt yer trouble maker sort. Me on the other hand

[scumdog]

Well i've worked with him for a year, hung out with him socially on occasion and been on the piss with him a few times, and he's never given me any indication he's an asshole or aggro etc while drunk.. Cheeky for sure, but hes cheeky when sober.. just cheekier when drunk.

I'm sure Wolf could back me up on this, this person isnt yer trouble maker sort. Me on the other hand

Due to understaffing the boys saw your mate as "oh shit ANOTHER wise guy" after having dealt with a whole raft of drunken abusive "wise guys" who but for alcohol, bravado and mates would be otherwise nice guys.

I'm sure the injury was not a result of deliberate action but shit happens sometimes, my sympathy for him and hope they 'save' his thumb.