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[Ixion]

ah, sweet ROFFLEness



ok! though you describe yourself as quite conservative? waaaah!

Yes. I am a conservative , monarchist communist.

[drummer]

Ahh oops. You obviously think I give a damn.

No.... but you are proving me wrong by keeping replying.

[spudchucka]

Geez Spud, IF IT"S DANGEROUS, THEN BLOODY CHARGE THEM WITH IT. It's pointless to keep referring to a non-existant danger. The reality is that it's behaviour modification through fear. Except that it's not working, not in terms of fewer road deaths nor from the way it encourages people to run.

But not for the lethal injection apparently. That's on them.

Thats a lame arguement Lou, I'm not biting.

[drummer]

Well.... the report is out on the 111 fiasco and looks as though what i said about it has been found true.

Come on Jimmy boy... bite

[spudchucka]

Its old news;

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11958

get with the programme!

[placidfemme]

I havn't read through all the previous 87 pages of replies on this topic. But I'll give my opinion anyway...

I think the cops here in NZ do a good job MOST of the time, but sadly not all the time. But for those of you who have travelled outside of NZ you'll know how good your law system is. I have bucket loads of respect for the cops out busting criminals... but NO respect for traffic cops at all.

I got pulled over by a cop on a bike earlier this year on the Northern Motorway. I came off the Onewa Road on-ramp and changed into the second lane, before I changed lanes I saw the cop sitting on the side of the motorway and remember trying to figure out what kind of bike he was riding (BMW I think?), and what the cc rating would be for it, I changed lanes, and next thing theres lights in my mirrors (couldn't hear the siren over my pipe), and I was thinking "man what did I do?" So I changed back to the first lane, and pulled over just before getting onto the bridge.

He asked to see my license, checked all my details and then lectured me for more than 5 minutes on road manners and changing lanes and the restrictions on my learners license... I sat quietly and nodded and agreed to everything he said (what else could I do?).

Then he starts lecturing me about changing lanes dangerously and erratically... and acts like he's doing me the biggest favour in the world by not giving me a fine... and then tops it off with "but I won't because I couldn't actually see as the traffic was blocking my view, so I'm not sure if you indicated or not"

WELL WHY DID YOU PULL ME OVER THEN??!!!!???????!!!!!!!

I'm assuming he was bored, and saw the L plate and thought "easy target". Thats just one reason out of about a million why traffic cops suck in my books...

hmm... yeah so thats my 2 cents worth..

[idb]

I havn't read through all the previous 87 pages of replies on this topic. But I'll give my opinion anyway...

I think the cops here in NZ do a good job MOST of the time, but sadly not all the time. But for those of you who have travelled outside of NZ you'll know how good your law system is. I have bucket loads of respect for the cops out busting criminals... but NO respect for traffic cops at all.

I got pulled over by a cop on a bike earlier this year on the Northern Motorway. I came off the Onewa Road on-ramp and changed into the second lane, before I changed lanes I saw the cop sitting on the side of the motorway and remember trying to figure out what kind of bike he was riding (BMW I think?), and what the cc rating would be for it, I changed lanes, and next thing theres lights in my mirrors (couldn't hear the siren over my pipe), and I was thinking "man what did I do?" So I changed back to the first lane, and pulled over just before getting onto the bridge.

He asked to see my license, checked all my details and then lectured me for more than 5 minutes on road manners and changing lanes and the restrictions on my learners license... I sat quietly and nodded and agreed to everything he said (what else could I do?).

Then he starts lecturing me about changing lanes dangerously and erratically... and acts like he's doing me the biggest favour in the world by not giving me a fine... and then tops it off with "but I won't because I couldn't actually see as the traffic was blocking my view, so I'm not sure if you indicated or not"

WELL WHY DID YOU PULL ME OVER THEN??!!!!???????!!!!!!!

I'm assuming he was bored, and saw the L plate and thought "easy target". Thats just one reason out of about a million why traffic cops suck in my books...

hmm... yeah so thats my 2 cents worth..

Worser was when, ooohhh I don't know, about 15-20 years ago, the traffic enforcement agency in Invercargill (I don't remember whether they were City Council, MOT or Police then) were pulling folks over and giving them chocolate fish, or balloons or hugs or something (my memory is hazy about anything over three hours ago) as a "well done" when they apprehended them doing something good like indicating or avoiding a pedestrian.....
You'd have to laugh wouldn't you?

[Brian d marge]

What the hell I ll rub it in ...

I can speed you cant ....We have police that dont do anything ..its great ..nothing nudda nought never seen them on the road //unless stuck in traffic on the other side
Why only today I was at least 30 km over the limit ..with not a care in the world ....
( atually I do tell a lie walking back from work last nite I saw the local policeman ..70 m from his seat ( I counted ) talking to a disgruntled parking space owner about a green nissan march that was parked in his space .....SO they Do something ...i think

Sorry but its revenue grabbing to pay for ..ummmmm something ..

Oh its good to be in the land of the free ..........

Sorry
couldnt resist ,,,,,,but you really should bring it up with your mp ....write a letter ..pen paper ...its even free post to wellington
you can steal the paper and envelope from work .........

Stephen

now running for cover

[spudchucka]

Thats a real post 2:00Am post!

Sorry Stephen but I can't figure out what your point actually is.

[Brian d marge]

Sorry but its revenue grabbing to pay for ..ummmmm something ..

Oh its good to be in the land of the free ..........

Sorry
couldnt resist ,,,,,,but you really should bring it up with your mp ....write a letter ..pen paper ...its even free post to wellington
you can steal the paper and envelope from work .........

crikey was it 2 am ....

All this talk about the police ....I do think its revenue grabbing possibly due to under funding ,,,As I live in a place where you almost NEVER see the police ......if you call em they come REAL quick other than that ...You just dont see them ...
On the other hand I was delighted to read that the police in NZ are sending letters to the top 20 percent of criminals telling them that there will be policeman camped on their door ......Now that was a good bit of reading Hope that works out
Finally In noticed how much traffic this thread generated ,,,and if all these relpys were letters on a certain mps floor ...I think they would/may think about acting ....1400 votes is a powerful tool
The postage to wellington is free So all u need is pen and paper ...( stolen from the courthouse / or a reused infringement envelope

But it does stand out when I come home for a holiday on a straight road that went on for miles ...the old man sat at 100 to 120 ( the alarm went off ...David slow down ,,,its me who ,,blahhh)
On the motorway here most sit at 120 ...but some come past at 140 easily ....
As for driver education here in Japan ... I did see a poster in a motorway service aera toilet saying speed kills .....

Me personally I think its the rugby /Racing and Beer culture that needs to be addressed ..thats the problem ....as in look how much of a tough man I am I can drive fast like Greg Murphy .....and other problems ,,Ch CH on a friday nite....

Stephen ( who has had coffee so the above may be readable ( maybe ) .

[Lou Girardin]

Sorry but its revenue grabbing to pay for ..ummmmm something ..

Oh its good to be in the land of the free ..........

Sorry
couldnt resist ,,,,,,but you really should bring it up with your mp ....write a letter ..pen paper ...its even free post to wellington
you can steal the paper and envelope from work .........

crikey was it 2 am ....

All this talk about the police ....I do think its revenue grabbing possibly due to under funding ,,,As I live in a place where you almost NEVER see the police ......if you call em they come REAL quick other than that ...You just dont see them ...
On the other hand I was delighted to read that the police in NZ are sending letters to the top 20 percent of criminals telling them that there will be policeman camped on their door ......Now that was a good bit of reading Hope that works out
Finally In noticed how much traffic this thread generated ,,,and if all these relpys were letters on a certain mps floor ...I think they would/may think about acting ....1400 votes is a powerful tool
The postage to wellington is free So all u need is pen and paper ...( stolen from the courthouse / or a reused infringement envelope

But it does stand out when I come home for a holiday on a straight road that went on for miles ...the old man sat at 100 to 120 ( the alarm went off ...David slow down ,,,its me who ,,blahhh)
On the motorway here most sit at 120 ...but some come past at 140 easily ....
As for driver education here in Japan ... I did see a poster in a motorway service aera toilet saying speed kills .....

Me personally I think its the rugby /Racing and Beer culture that needs to be addressed ..thats the problem ....as in look how much of a tough man I am I can drive fast like Greg Murphy .....and other problems ,,Ch CH on a friday nite....

Stephen ( who has had coffee so the above may be readable ( maybe ) .

You're probably not wrong. It's the mindless aggression that's built into our culture with it's focus on thugby as a religion and 'staunch' as a philosophy for life.

[inlinefour]

ACT leader Rodney Hide has released tapes of police and the rescue centre bungling a response to save the lives of two fishermen after their fishing vessel capsized.

He blames police for failing to arrange a helicopter in time when the Iron Maiden capsized off the Northland coast in August last year.

Mr Hide says police "mucked around" the Rescue Coordination Centre for two hours despite being asked to dispatch a helicopter within 13 minutes of the mayday call from the boat.

He says in the end, police handed the operation over to the RCC, telling the centre they did not have the resources.

[Lou Girardin]

Saw this too. Another Pleece spooksman refusing to admit that they could be the teensiest, weensiest bit wrong. It was everyone elses fault apparently.
Shame people died.

[Pixie]

Saw this too. Another Pleece spooksman refusing to admit that they could be the teensiest, weensiest bit wrong. It was everyone elses fault apparently.
Shame people died.

Levymalone Lou ,they went through a modern education system ,where no matter how bad you fuck up,you are not a failure-Just differently successful.

[drummer]

Levymalone Lou ,they went through a modern education system ,where no matter how bad you fuck up,you are not a failure-Just differently successful.

man o man thats the truth. I teach music in primary schools amongst other things and actively stand against this pathetic Pc culture... blame everyone else... they're to blame!!