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[Pixie]

WE SHOULD STOP GIVING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS AWAY IN GRANTS TO OVERSEAS COUNTRYS EVERY YEAR THIS WILL HELP EVEN MORE, FUCK THAT COUNTRYS SHOULD STAND AND FALL ON THEIR OWN 2 FEET FINANCIALLY

If we don't send aid to poor countries,(like Indonesia for instance,who have armed forces with the resources to scare the USA)
Then clarke and her cronies won't earn the points that will get them the UN posts they covert for when they retire from screwing our country.

[Pixie]

So you think its Ok to kill someone if you are trying to stop them from stealing your property?

Heavens no!It wasn't his fault ,Society failed him

[Pixie]

I sure as hell wouldn't take pot shots at you as you were riding away!!!!

He bloody near did kill somebody and he wasn't defending himself or his family

Ok so maybe a quad bike is worth more than a life, what' the lowest value you would put on a thiefs life? How much does he need to steal before being eligable for your death penalty?

What would be the pros and cons if the said Scum died?
Pros : One less crim Scum
One social worker/case worker would have one less client
A patch of ground somewhere would get fertilised

Cons: Cost of funeral arrangments?Sorry that would probably be covered
by ACC or a WINZ special needs grant

[Pixie]

McIntyre (the farmer) would be bloody good at snooker judging by the shot off the ute into the brown pocket.

[Pixie]

And any competent forensic examiner will be able to determine that his hand was forced to grip the knife posthumously - adding "tampering with evidence" to the various firearms offences and possibly providing a skilled prosecutor with all the "evidence" required for a "premeditated murder" charge - all (s)he has to do is convince twelve random members of the public that you killed someone with the intention of planting a weapon afterwards and then point to this forum where you have already posted your "plan"...

My how things have changed.In Arthur Thomas's time they couldn't tell that a shiny brass cartridge case was unlikely to have been in a flower bed for eighteen months.

[Lou Girardin]

So when a shoplifter is caught stealing a chocolate bar the shop keeper is justified in blowing his brains out to prevent the offender from getting away with his property?

There was the classic scene from the LA riots of two Korean shopowners standing in their doorway and banging off rounds at any rioter who came near.
They didn't seem to get bothered much.

[Lou Girardin]

My how things have changed.In Arthur Thomas's time they couldn't tell that a shiny brass cartridge case was unlikely to have been in a flower bed for eighteen months.

Or that it couldn't possibly have contained the bullet that killed Harvey Crewe.
But in those days, if a cop said black was white a jury would believe him. Three juries in this case.
And who was it that revealed the crucial evidence?
Oh, that's right. A journalist.

[Lou Girardin]

If anyone is wondering how the Police reputation has come to this low. Check out the Herald this morning. Peter Doone, ex-commissioner, is sueing helen Clarke over his resignation. Which was forced on him because he tried to make a rookie cop not breath test his girlfriend.
This is an example of the integrity and moral courage of some of the Police hierachy. The new lot aren't any better.

[scumdog]

If anyone is wondering how the Police reputation has come to this low. Check out the Herald this morning. Peter Doone, ex-commissioner, is sueing helen Clarke over his resignation. Which was forced on him because he tried to make a rookie cop not breath test his girlfriend.
This is an example of the integrity and moral courage of some of the Police hierachy. The new lot aren't any better.

Ah yes, but what are you going to do improve things? So far all the slanging on this site has made things worse so in this age of dispensing with resposibility I blame you and Ixion

BTW Note the claim made in the MEDIA re Doones words was retracted by them hence the 'go' at H. Cluck by Doone.

[Clockwork]

What would be the pros and cons if the said Scum died?
Pros : One less crim Scum
One social worker/case worker would have one less client
A patch of ground somewhere would get fertilised

Cons: Cost of funeral arrangments?Sorry that would probably be covered
by ACC or a WINZ special needs grant

Yeeee Haaaaarrr.

Saddle up boys!!!! there's gonna be a lynchin'

I guess we won't need courts anymore.... and there would be no need for Prisons. All offences can be punished by death (should this include traffic infringements?)

Jeez, look at all the people you're putting out of a job.... they may have to resort to crime to survive!

[Clockwork]

I doubt that he or anyone would claim that there should be any such value. On the other hand, there is substantial merit in the idea that property theft is actually a crime against the person. If I work for 20 weeks at 40 hours a week to buy a car / boat / quad / fur coat or whatever and it is stolen, that thief has in some respects stolen 800 hours of my life. Does not justify shooting him in the back, by no means, but this is certainly not a 'victimless crime' - this is a crime against me not just my property ... not so? I am never going to get those 800 hours back.... just a different perspective, am by no means advocating vigilanteism (which is sort step from anarchy).

By this definition every crime becomes a crime against the person!

[Wolf]

By this definition every crime becomes a crime against the person!

Except for burgling a bank - the funds are all insured and who the fuck gives a rats arse if an insurance company is forced to give back the money it's fleeced off the policy holder?

Note I said "burgling" not "robbing" - the former involves sneaking in and taking the loot, the latter involves threatening staff (which would be a direct crime against said staff).

[Clockwork]

Except for burgling a bank - the funds are all insured and who the fuck gives a rats arse if an insurance company is forced to give back the money it's fleeced off the policy holder?

Note I said "burgling" not "robbing" - the former involves sneaking in and taking the loot, the latter involves threatening staff (which would be a direct crime against said staff).

What if the Bank doesn't have insurance? or What if they have it and they use the same insurance company that you use and then your premiums go up to protect their pofits?

[Ixion]

Ah yes, but what are you going to do improve things? So far all the slanging on this site has made things worse so in this age of dispensing with resposibility I blame you and Ixion
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Well, as soon as you all get your collective act together and agree to my appointment as national Dictator , with full autocratic powers, then you'll see lots of improvement to lots of things. (Starting with the personal bike collection in the Dictatorial gargre ).

You might decide you don't like the improvements too much though. Especially when my New Style police (in their *special* new uniforms) come breaking your door down at 2am. (Did I mention that one of the improvements was getting rid of all that tedious nuisance about warrants and right to a fair trial blah blah blah)

[Pixie]

Well, as soon as you all get your collective act together and agree to my appointment as national Dictator , with full autocratic powers, then you'll see lots of improvement to lots of things. (Starting with the personal bike collection in the Dictatorial gargre ).

You might decide you don't like the improvements too much though. Especially when my New Style police (in their *special* new uniforms) come breaking your door down at 2am. (Did I mention that one of the improvements was getting rid of all that tedious nuisance about warrants and right to a fair trial blah blah blah)

You'll get my vote
Be aware though that failure to perform will result in a "Mussolini"
(hung upside down with brain removed)