Time for a change...

[B0000M]

sorry havnt read the big posts above this properly. just a skim, dont have huge amounts of time., but id steer away from the 125 2t as a trail bike, ive been there and done that, and they are fine if and only if you are a confident rider on one , and if and only if nobody is going slow in front of you.

if you get to a tough bit on a 125 and you dont have room to be 'fucken dealing to it', your screwed. as much as it pains me to say this, a good beginners bike for a lighter rider like your boy is something along the lines of a 250 4t. i recently got my mrs a CRF250x (the electric leg model) dropped it down a little and shes getting the hang of it sweet as. her bigest drawback is her lack of height. but at 55kg theres plenty of power there without being ridiculous about it. (personally i find it gutless )

as for yourself though i will repeat that the cr250 is a serious piece of machinery and something along the likes of ktm's exc's could be the go, i dont know much about them - do they make a 250 or 300 ktm lads? perhaps that could be the go.

i definately agree though with the 2t maintenance. easy as. anyone with some half decent basic hand tools can fix pretty much anytihng on a 2 stroke

[scott411]

awesome opinions in this thread,

with the four strokes you have to remember the older school ones (DRZ's KLX300's XR's etc) are very reliable, the do not need regular valve and top end maitence like the modern 250F and 450F motocross based machines (incl CRFX, WRF, EXC-F etc)

i would agree with reckless, simple four strokes would be a good choice for you and your boy, a DRZ400 is a good bike but are quite tall, would pay to ride on and see if you like, a KLX300 is a fair bit shorter in seat height, and a lot lighter, but no electric start is a issue for some, they do start easy, if you could start a TT500 you will never have a problem starting the KLX,

[BarBender]

Tina's got a 125cc pit bike that she has outgrown, i reckon that would be ideal for you bro

LOL The same pit bike that was used for a driveby outside Danger Danger in Whangas a year or so ago??

sorry havnt read the big posts above this properly. just a skim, dont have huge amounts of time., but id steer away from the 125 2t as a trail bike, ive been there and done that, and they are fine if and only if you are a confident rider on one , and if and only if nobody is going slow in front of you.
if you get to a tough bit on a 125 and you dont have room to be 'fucken dealing to it', your screwed. as much as it pains me to say this, a good beginners bike for a lighter rider like your boy is something along the lines of a 250 4t. i recently got my mrs a CRF250x (the electric leg model) dropped it down a little and shes getting the hang of it sweet as. her bigest drawback is her lack of height. but at 55kg theres plenty of power there without being ridiculous about it. (personally i find it gutless )
as for yourself though i will repeat that the cr250 is a serious piece of machinery and something along the likes of ktm's exc's could be the go, i dont know much about them - do they make a 250 or 300 ktm lads? perhaps that could be the go.
i definately agree though with the 2t maintenance. easy as. anyone with some half decent basic hand tools can fix pretty much anytihng on a 2 stroke

Cheers again B0000M. I'll investigate the CRF as well. Pardon my ignorance but the 2504t is a CRF?

awesome opinions in this thread,
with the four strokes you have to remember the older school ones (DRZ's KLX300's XR's etc) are very reliable, the do not need regular valve and top end maitence like the modern 250F and 450F motocross based machines (incl CRFX, WRF, EXC-F etc)
i would agree with reckless, simple four strokes would be a good choice for you and your boy, a DRZ400 is a good bike but are quite tall, would pay to ride on and see if you like, a KLX300 is a fair bit shorter in seat height, and a lot lighter, but no electric start is a issue for some, they do start easy, if you could start a TT500 you will never have a problem starting the KLX,

How far are you going back re: reliable 4s Scott? Cheers


Thanks guys,
Again I appreciate the advice to date. Lists as follows:

Me
KTM 200-300 EXC
DRZ 400 off road spec
KLX 300

The boy
KLX 140
CRF 150 - 250

[B0000M]

Cheers again B0000M. I'll investigate the CRF as well. Pardon my ignorance but the 2504t is a CRF?

4t = 4 stroke

so yes the 250 4t is including the CRF, but i wasnt being brand-ist, all the other brands make a similar bike though im not sure if any of the others have an electric start model