Veitch - lucky his car was well tuned

[Murray]

The punishment no longer fits the crime, and shows no signs of slowing. We (the public) should be ashamed.

Totally agree!!!

And so should the media for there coverage!!!!

[devnull]

Agreed - I'm a fan of accountability... if he did the crime(s) he does the time... that's the way it should be.

My problem is when the pulicity surrounding it escalates to a point where the gossip and personal humiliation for him, his friends and immediate family becomes an intolerable punishment - as it seems to have in this case. He's looking for an escape, a way out of the situation.

The punishment no longer fits the crime, and shows no signs of slowing. We (the public) should be ashamed.

Exactly. It's not an investigation into a historic assault, it's become persecution via the media.

And that's something I find very distasteful.

You see it happen in the US, and people's lives are completely destroyed as a result. That the same behaviour is becoming popular here is a pretty sad indictment on the people of NZ.

[dipshit]

New Zealand's little version of OJ Simpson.

[Skyryder]

Well no. Firstly you cannot compare Helen Clark scribbling her name on a painting for a charity fund-raiser - a decent thing for which she received nothing -

Yep agreed those that slagged her on this fail to mention the intent. Her sige was to raise money for charity. Forgers to which she was accused, sign for personal gain.


Skyryder

[The Stranger:Me]

Agreed - I'm a fan of accountability... if he did the crime(s) he does the time... that's the way it should be.

My problem is when the pulicity surrounding it escalates to a point where the gossip and personal humiliation for him, his friends and immediate family becomes an intolerable punishment - as it seems to have in this case. He's looking for an escape, a way out of the situation.

The punishment no longer fits the crime, and shows no signs of slowing. We (the public) should be ashamed.

That's all well and good, and I agree that the press are coonts and that it is entirely possible the the punishment has exceeded the crime, but is he the architect of his own demise?

FFS, man up, admit it, face the consequences - I am certain a judge will take past deeds etc into consideration. By vigorously defending the charges he invites the treatment he is receiving.

Now sure, if he is innocent by all means defend it, however his admissions and actions would appear to at odds with that.

This is why the press is having a field day. All he has to do is take their storey away and it all ends. It's his decision.

[ManDownUnder]

By vigorously defending the charges he invites the treatment he is receiving.

Yes and no - he's surely acting under the advice of a lawyer.

Manning up and dealing with the fallout. Hell yes. That's got to be the least painful route to purdition.

I'm pretty keen for his ex to have her day in court too (I assume she is for blackmail etc?)

[devnull]

Yep agreed those that slagged her on this fail to mention the intent. Her sige was to raise money for charity. Forgers to which she was accused, sign for personal gain.


Skyryder

Are you saying that the law should be applied selectively, as it was in that case? Surely, if a prima facie case is proven (as it was), it's up to the courts to decide...

Why should people place any faith in the law when clearly it only applies to some, not all?

[Patrick]

He's bought all this on himself. Most of us have been under stress of some kind shit. I could tell you about stress but most of us don't go 'lashing out' becasue of it or use stress as as excuse to 'alledgely kick a female while she's on the floor. Seems he may have knocked her about more than once. Cunts like Veitch need to face up to what they are. Fucking cowards milking the media for a bit of sympathy.

This 'stunt' was nothing more than an excuse for his brief to use medical grounds should he be found guilty ass charged so as not to be sent down. That intelligent people can not see thru this bullshit defies belief.


Skyryder

Who is this Skyrider, the one who speaks of innocence until proven guilty, and, more importantly, innocent even when found guilty.... ???????????

[Patrick]

And if he were a biker, it's not the biker way to kick a man when he's down.

Depends on the type of biker you mean... seen some Head Hunter / Hells Angels put the boot in.....

I'm pretty keen for his ex to have her day in court too (I assume she is for blackmail etc?)

Blackmail? She demanded the money? He gave it to her to keep her quiet, perhaps? As Winston pointed out, the splitting of property, perhaps?

Trial by media this has most certainly been.

A bad path to do down, indeed.....

[ManDownUnder]

Blackmail? She demanded the money? He gave it to her to keep her quiet, perhaps? As Winston pointed out, the splitting of property, perhaps?

Trial by media this has most certainly been.

A bad path to do down, indeed.....

Fair call - there's me getting caught up in the hype.

Let me rephrase... I hope all those that did wrong are held accountable and go through the official process (does that sound pompous or what???)

[Patrick]

Fair call - there's me getting caught up in the hype.

Let me rephrase... I hope all those that did wrong are held accountable and go through the official process (does that sound pompous or what???)

Not at all.

This one has gone via the media first... that is the issue.....

[Indiana_Jones]

What I don't get is why the media isn't on the lady's back, she took the money. If that's the case, I donno, I wasn't there.

I hope she gives it back, Tony might need it!

-Indy

[AllanB]

Sounds like the dude needs a motorcycle to take for a good blast and forget the shit for a couple of hours.

A decent bike like a Honda

[Slyer]

None of this would have happened if he tried it on a motorcycle... He would have been successful.

[Skyryder]

Are you saying that the law should be applied selectively, as it was in that case? Surely, if a prima facie case is proven (as it was), it's up to the courts to decide...

Why should people place any faith in the law when clearly it only applies to some, not all?

There may well have been, don't know so will take your word. But there was no intent to defraud or for that matter any personal gain. If you believe other wise then so be it.

Skyryder