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    Dirt biking has evolved!

    Bloody hell it has just sunk in! - Ive had all day to think about what happened to me on Saturday....


    Back in 1976 I was lucky enough to be one of the first people in the country to ride a bike with just one rear shock absorber- radical! A few years later I found that disc brakes would solve the fading and constant adjustment of drum brakes.
    In the mid 90s they discovered how to make 4 strokes perform and powervalves made 2 strokes tractable.
    Well- This weekend I was introduced to All Wheel Drive Dirtbikes!!!!!
    I spent Satuday clawing my way up impossible clay rutted hills and churning through Knee deep bogs on a CRF250x fitted with the system.
    Over The Top Adventures has been chosen as launch partner for the release of the amazing CHRISTINI AWD system! you will read about it next month in DRD, but for now, let me tell you that this summer is the going to be the most significant era in Dirt Biking that most of us will ever see. The Christini system has been under development for 5 years in the USA and Europe.
    OFFROAD IMPORTS are the NZ Dealer for this amazing innovation! Bikes are here and available right now. this summer you will be able to come here and test ride these amazing bikes yourself on the challenging trails that we offer as our tour package.

    where is it??

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    Here's the business!

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    And the system with its pants down...
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    and here's where you will be without it! A conventional bike in the same hole!

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    wahahaha that's badass!!! can do simultaneous front and rear burnouts!!
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    WOOT?! That is a freakin great idea, but i'm just tryin to wrap my head around how the heck it works... How is it transferring drive to the front wheel? cant see the workings particularly well in those photo's... would be an insane thing to try out alright!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger8 View Post
    WOOT?! That is a freakin great idea, but i'm just tryin to wrap my head around how the heck it works... How is it transferring drive to the front wheel? cant see the workings particularly well in those photo's... would be an insane thing to try out alright!
    Quote Originally Posted by bomma View Post
    wahahaha that's badass!!! can do simultaneous front and rear burnouts!!
    This thing is like comparing the off road capabilities of a full on 4WD rally plugger with a Toyota hiace van!
    You point this thing at the nastiest rutted slick clay hill you can find and ride 1/2 way up, stop, roll open the throttle and just cruise up the rest of the way!
    No dramas- no heroics- just go where you want! I tested two of them on Saturday, one was manual- the other had a Reklus auto clutch and a hand rear brake- that was another story again!
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    a few years back yamaha was experiemnting both on and off road with 2WD

    they had a hydraulic pump running of the output of the gearbox, sending fluid to another pump in the front hub. this meant no mechanical link to the front and if the rear wheel breaks loose the front wheel will get more power to compensate (output spins up pump = moar power), and the front can't get more power than the rear (output not change means pump not change)

    apparently it's magic on the dirt, but on the road it really only came into it's own during wet races. but, of course, these systems added a significant amount to the pricetag (talking a $30k dirtbike here) and would require their own classes to race them

    that honda there looks like a similar story - is it affordable?

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    You ve had a visit from my welsh friend Dafydd aye? Cool.
    Have a look at the Christini website guys - this system is the shit man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    a few years back yamaha was experiemnting both on and off road with 2WD

    that honda there looks like a similar story - is it affordable?
    You justfy the price once you have ridden it!- Whats a brand new standard CRF worth?- $12,000- im not sure.... OFFROAD IMPORTS Have got one sitting in a box ready for you for $18,500 but honestly, you are getting more than a bike and a half! they have KTM EXC300s on their way too- luurvely!
    those yamahas cost a fortune and were not made available to the public punters. They were robbed of so much power using hydraulics.
    This system comes with a 12 month warranty and 50 hour service intervals. (basicaly seals and bearings) the power loss is quoted at .2hp on the 250. you would never feel it..


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    Somebodie's got some real talent here!!! That's wicked man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CB ARGH View Post
    Somebodie's got some real talent here!!! That's wicked man.
    OFFROAD IMPORTS will be having regular AWD EXPERIENCE rides here with us. Better get down here and get muddy!

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    I've seen these bikes in action and they are really very impressive! Was over at the trailblazer with CR125NZ and Dafydd who was actually riding one (he is one of the guys in charge of bringing them in I think). Front wheel has a clutch so you choose the amount of power to the front wheel and you can actually ride rear wheel only.

    They look strange when going up hills cos you can actually see it get pulled up by the front wheel and round corners too.

    I'll stick with conventional rear wheel drive but for a serious trail rider this could be a machine for you

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    - other stuff that OFF ROAD IMPORTS have is;

    Stomp grip - its like velcro for you and your bike! Wickedly grippy panels that stick you to your steed!


    Reklus auto clutches- You just have to ride one!

    Hyde Protectors and bashplates - you can see em all over the frame and swingarm of the Christini. They are polypropelyne moulded panels that protect the easily damaged parts of your bike. the bashplate is so close fitting and sexy!!

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    Hand rear brakes so that you have something to do with your left hand once your clutch has gone!

    Co-Polymer extruded Carbon case savers- these are moulded to fit the various models of clutch cover and protect against rock and brake lever caused holes.

    Lockable steel braid un cuttable tie downs! You just have to see them!

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    I dunno, I find it hard to believe that you only lose 0.2 HP.
    No expert but just thinking about drive line loses/efficiency in cars etc.

    - FWD loses = 20-30%
    - RWD loses = 30-40%
    - 4WD loses = lots, some Subi's can be 70% apparently.

    Still, bet it would be fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by cave weta View Post
    Back in 1976 I was lucky enough to be one of the first people in the country to ride a bike with just one rear shock absorber- radical!

    I don't know if an AG100 with one rear shock missing really qualifies as a monoshock in the true sense Stu.....

    Looks like you had some fun, and that certainly looks like a better system than the hydraulic one, and certainly easier to jerry rig if you did happen to strike problems out in the middle of nowhere.
    I certainly appreciate the value for those that ride in boggy conditions a lot and would be interested in having a skid, but just not sure if it's entirely me...

    On another note, shame that Offroad Imports don't list pricing for those tie downs or any dealer info - they look like a bloody good idea! Any idea what they are worth?

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    On another note, shame that Offroad Imports don't list pricing for those tie downs or any dealer info - they look like a bloody good idea! Any idea what they are worth?[/QUOTE]

    Yeh saw those looked quite good could quite tell was i a hurry did they have a locking system as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by barty5 View Post
    Yeah saw those looked quite good could quite tell was i a hurry did they have a locking system as well
    Looks like they have one of those high security key locks (like a disc lock) though it's hard to tell from the pic.

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