Is it now illegal to wave to each other?

**Hitcher** · 24th January 2005, 18:49

Originally Posted by MD

Good thing about the Trumpet is you can get lost exploring new roads and not have to worry about where the next gas station is.

Reassuring to know that, isn't it!

On Saturday I ran (for the first time) the ST into reserve at 470km. At that point the remaining fuel bar started winking and the fuel consumption display changed from kml to km remaining (estimated). At this stage I was tooling around downtown Wellington (kml would have been about 12) with Mrs H on the rear and was advised of 75km to empty.

So that's about 550km to a tank, plus or minus (definately on the plus side for one-up riding). Any one-litre sporties fancy a "race" to Tauranga and back? At night? In the winter?

**The Preacher** · 24th January 2005, 18:59

I ride most weekends between Timaru and Christchurch on my crusier.

Findings:
wave to other crusiers 100% return including H-D's
wave to road bikes approx 95% return

Conclusion: maybe South Island

riders are more laid back and friendlier

MD · 24th January 2005, 19:14

Oh that bike is so you Hitcher. That's not a tank range that's the length of a small continent. Must cost a few bucks to fill from empty though. Wait till I show you the high tech fuel controls on the Trumpet. Lets see, there's the On, Reserve, Off tap- yep a trusty old twist tap like our daddies had and a trip meter that you reset by winding round and round and round until all the pretty numbers rotate back to zero. Since it involves lots of finger work I consider it a digital display.

**Hitcher** · 24th January 2005, 19:28

Mark, that's 27 litres. You should be able to work out the cost of a fill. It's the first time I've been able to use my Flybuys card when fuelling one bike.

Ordinarily, when riding with Mrs H, I fill when she fills. In Marauder terms that's about every 180km, plus or minus.

Anyway, back to skiting about range... Anybody fancy an overnighter from Wellington to Whangarei with only one allowed fuel stop each way? And no, you're not allowed to take your c.a.r.

Excuse me a moment's joy. It takes my mind off the pain of a wrenched left knee inflicted trying to hold up a toppling ST with a full fuel load, rider and pillion. Estimated descending mass -- 480+kg. Ouch.

**fritter** · 26th January 2005, 19:51

I tend to nod more than wave, and get about a 90% return rate... harley riders would be about 1 in 5 - that's an improvement. Once in a while I won't have noticed someone until it's too late, so I expect (with everyone but the harley riders) that maybe they've just been daydreaming and not seen me.

I've stopped nodding or waving to scooter riders unless they do it first though. In about 14 or so years of it, I've had one guy wave at me (this was about 6 months ago) - got such a shock I nearly crashed lol

**Redstar** · 26th January 2005, 20:49

Waving is part of the brotherhood thing (or sisterhood thing or dyke oh nevermind thing) I am a compulsive waver and I have been waving at a biker for months going the otherway and finally after months I get one back.

Be consistent I say and way galour. some biker won't return a wave because

1. they don't feel confident enough to release a grip
2. they simply did not see your wave and thought you were rude
3. they are commuting to work and are not in a good frame of mind
4. snobery of two wheel breed (Hitler had a similar view on life)
5. they nod or use some other signal that you don't see
6. Your going 230klms/hr and your doing 230klms/hr and you both wave but that was then and this is now.
7. you have such a subtyle wave that even the FBI would miss it
8. You won't wave til they do (mexican standoff or chicken wave)
9. you flash your lights but there already on
10. your an arrogant non waver
11. there an arrogant non waver
12. there so supprised that you even bothered to wave at Fat lady on Burgman that that need more time to put some make-up on
13 You wave in a gay or ifeminant manner (the salute)
14. you hate life people and bikes you only ride because you cant pass your car test.

Jes that the most crap ive erer written! but im gettin close to 400 posts and tonights the night!

**Wolf** · 26th January 2005, 21:55

Hmmm, used to get lots of return waves. There was one bloke that I'd see regularly riding his Beemer towards Hamilton on Highway 3 as I was riding to work in Te Awamutu - was practically a morning ritual to greet each other on our way.

Recently tho', got more WTF looks than return waves from other bikers. I'm taking it as an indication of the gradual decline in general politeness - sure sign a society is on the edge of decline - pretty soon all NZers will stop smiling and waving to each other and we'll all be speaking French... :sly:

Still doesn't stop me waving but I tend to mutter "snobby prick" if I don't get a return wave.

**Waylander** · 26th January 2005, 22:11

rode out form hamilton twords tauranga and saw plenty of bikers on all sorts of bikes (a few of them looked like some of the bikes ive seen pics of on here not sure though cause i cant find them now) but none of them waved back. i got a few truckers to wave though wich was nice. even had one move out of my way so i can pass him and i waved to him as i went by. maybe we need more bikers that are truckers or something

LB · 27th January 2005, 04:43

Originally Posted by Wolf

Hmmm, used to get lots of return waves. There was one bloke that I'd see regularly riding his Beemer towards Hamilton on Highway 3 as I was riding to work in Te Awamutu - was practically a morning ritual to greet each other on our way.

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Reminds me.....many, many years ago I used to commute from L/Hutt to Porirua to work. Used to go via Ngarunga Gorge (less distance). Always used to see a guy on an orange XL175 going the other way, round the BP station on the Hutt m/way. We always used to wave, like you say a ritual.

Twice in the 12 or so months I commuted it was such a lovely day I went via the Haywards way instead. You wanna know the freaky thing? So did my mate. Both times. Couldn't believe it......

Never ever did get to meet him....if anyone reading this is him, please get in touch for old time's sake!

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**Stevo** · 27th January 2005, 06:58

Originally Posted by Wolf

Hmmm, used to get lots of return waves. There was one bloke that I'd see regularly riding his Beemer towards Hamilton on Highway 3 as I was riding to work in Te Awamutu - was practically a morning ritual to greet each other on our way.

Recently tho', got more WTF looks than return waves from other bikers. I'm taking it as an indication of the gradual decline in general politeness - sure sign a society is on the edge of decline - pretty soon all NZers will stop smiling and waving to each other and we'll all be speaking French... :sly:

Still doesn't stop me waving but I tend to mutter "snobby prick" if I don't get a return wave.

Deece does not hinspire me to ride de Norf Island

**riffer** · 27th January 2005, 07:39

I did a little test myself this morning.

On the way to work along SH2 between the Haywards turnoff and Kennedy-Good bridge, there were three motorcycles going the other way.

Incidentally, they were all motorcycle HP.

One waved back. I guess the other two were so shocked they couldn't work out what to do...

**Jantar** · 27th January 2005, 17:25

Originally Posted by MD

Observations:

1. hardly any riders waved back. ...

3. Best Cop award. ...

Cheers again, you made a great trip even better and I took heed of the warning in appreciation of the shit he could have dumped me in.
MD

On Monday my wife and I did a quick trip from Alex to Mosgiel, then return via Palmerston and the Pig Route. I waved at every bike we passed, and all except one returned the wave. The one who didn't wave back was screaming through a corner at one hell of a lean, and probably didn't feel comfortable at taking a hand off the bars.

We also saw lots of cops, and didn't feel threatened once. A cop at Milton obviously had targeted a truck travelling at around 100 - 105 kph and he was following the truck far too closely for safety. One cop did flash his lights at us just south of Palmerston, and a glance at the speedo showed we were doing 109, so a deserved flash. But no ticket.

**inlinefour** · 27th January 2005, 22:30

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Reassuring to know that, isn't it!

On Saturday I ran (for the first time) the ST into reserve at 470km. At that point the remaining fuel bar started winking and the fuel consumption display changed from kml to km remaining (estimated). At this stage I was tooling around downtown Wellington (kml would have been about 12) with Mrs H on the rear and was advised of 75km to empty.

So that's about 550km to a tank, plus or minus (definately on the plus side for one-up riding). Any one-litre sporties fancy a "race" to Tauranga and back? At night? In the winter?

I figure that the CBR will be quick enough to make up for the extra fuel stops

**Stevo** · 27th January 2005, 22:41

I too hope the same with the CBR lol. The big maiden voyage after the BIG rebuild is set for saturday.................... and you are damn right

Ain't nothin better than de Honda

**inlinefour** · 28th January 2005, 02:09

Originally Posted by Stevo

I too hope the same with the CBR lol. The big maiden voyage after the BIG rebuild is set for saturday.................... and you are damn right

Ain't nothin better than de Honda

The 600cc would probably be the better option for me, but I think or more to the point, suspect that once I can find one 2nd hand, I'll end up with the CBR1000RR

However I'd take any advice or suggestions from a 600cc rider