Millie Elder in court on P supply charges

[imdying]

As I said, depends on how you look at it.....

No it doesn't.

From what I've seen, pussy is worse at impairing a man's judgment than booze or weed... should we blame crashes involving driving after fighting with the missus or looking at school girls in short skirts as you drive down the road on women then?

[Hinny]

Is the issue not also complicated by the fact that new opiate users have an order of magnitude greater sensitivity to the drug than regular users do?

The internet speaks tales of 500mg IV heroin doses at the extreme end of junkie-dom. I'm pretty sure that'd have a decent chance of killing you or me.

Still, I'd rather see people taking heroin than methamphetamine.

Use of the drug brings a tolerance to the euphoric effects but not to the suppression of breathing. An extreme user, you and I would all have the same chance of dying from an excessive dose.
Naloxone / Narcan can be administered by nasal spray and almost instantly reverse the effects of the drug.

I certainly believe that P or Crystal Meth is far worse than Heroin. I also believe that we would not have a P problem if Heroin was legally available.
I believe that Sydney would not have the Heroin problem it has if it was possible for people to access it legally.
Legal access to Heroin has been tried; it worked. It was suspended at the request of the DEA. Apparently people were not taking the drug themselves but selling it on the US black market.
Who would buy from the black market if you could buy pharmaceutical quality from the Chemist at very reasonable prices?
The chemist aren't going to encourage the use of the drug as opposed to the black marketeer. Result... opiate use declines. Problem solved.
Keep those freakin' junkies from stealing my stuff to feed their habits.
Let them have respectable jobs and be valuable members of society.

The misinformation and rubbish spouted about Marijuana is in my opinion a major contributor to the drug problem People were told that for instance there was a strong chance you would turn into a homicidal axe-wielding psychopath if you tried the drug. That you would become addicted etc. etc. When Joe Public found out that this was not the case then they simply mistrusted and disbelieved all the other anti-drug information.

The fear that by offering people greater control over their lives -- the essence of harm reduction -- leads to greater risk taking, is fallacious, as we have learned through years of experience.

[McJim]

She was allegedly supplementing her income with prostitution and was charging people for golden showers. So people were paying her for pee and it all got confused in the media :slap:

[Hinny]

From what I've seen, pussy is worse at impairing a man's judgment than booze or weed...

Totally agree.

[marioc]

There is no way a heroin user could possibly hold down any kind of job.
Thats crazy talk,I have worked with these people.
You guys need to do a little more research on heroin addiction.
In saying that it would be very hard even for a heavy meth user.
Perhaps at first for a few months but eventually you just ending up needing more and more till something gives.

Both these drugs are too damaging to totally legalise imo.
Its the less dangerous,such as E and maybe even Coke that should be decriminalised to some extent.

[Patrick]

No it doesn't.

From what I've seen, pussy is worse at impairing a man's judgment than booze or weed... should we blame crashes involving driving after fighting with the missus or looking at school girls in short skirts as you drive down the road on women then?

Yes... it still "depends on how you look at it"...

Take your eyes off the road, it is called Careless Use...

[scumdog]

At the risk of sounding insensitive:
Why do the silly cunts try the drugs in the first place?

Given the not-so-nice evidence of what the use of them may result in.

[Patrick]

At the risk of sounding insensitive:
Why do the silly cunts try the drugs in the first place?

Given the not-so-nice evidence of what the use of them may result in.

And the pictures from "before" and "after"

[imdying]

Yes... it still "depends on how you look at it"...

I'm still not on the same page Booze doesn't kill drunk drivers, being a retarded moron is what killed them.

[The Stranger:Me]

At the risk of sounding insensitive:
Why do the silly cunts try the drugs in the first place?

Given the not-so-nice evidence of what the use of them may result in.

Soo obvious aye scummy.

Why does anyone drink?
Why does anyone speed?
Why does a huge portion of the population over eat?
Why does anyone start smoking cigarettes?

Why oh why?

If you could answer that sir I am sure you would be guaranteed a place in history.

[Headbanger]

Why?

because they enjoy it.

Until they find they don't enjoy it so much, But not having it is even less joyful, even miserable and painful.

fire burns.

[Big Dave]

She would have be getting off on the risk of it all too Scummy.

Hard not to feel for the parents.

[Hinny]

There is no way a heroin user could possibly hold down any kind of job.
Thats crazy talk,I have worked with these people.
You guys need to do a little more research on heroin addiction.

I also have worked with Heroin users and they have held down very good jobs.
I also know of another former user who is on a methadone program. He's totally hopeless.
It depends I believe on the person and their associates. Hang out with hopeless deadbeats and after a while I'm sure you would become one too.

If you did a little more research you too may change your opinions as I have.
I don't advocate legalisation as a way of promoting the use of Heroin.
I advocate its legalisation for the exact opposite outcome.
Fewer addicts, fewer deaths and lower crime.
This outcome has been shown to be the reality of legalisation.

Of interest is the mission statement of LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.
The mission of LEAP is to reduce the multitude of unintended harmful consequences resulting from fighting the war on drugs and to lessen the incidence of death, disease, crime, and addiction by ultimately ending drug prohibition.

[Hinny]

Test to see if you could handle drugs.

Scenario:
You are driving in a car at a constant speed. On your left side is a valley
and on your right side is a fire engine travelling at the same speed as
you.
In front of you is a galloping pig which is the same size as your car and
you cannot overtake it.
Behind you is a helicopter flying at ground level. Both the giant pig and
the helicopter are also travelling at the same speed as you.
What must you do to safely get out of this highly dangerous situation?





Get off the children's "Merry-Go-Round", you're high.

[Headbanger]

This outcome has been shown to be the reality of legalisation.

Again, where?,details?,data?

You know,...proof

I saw it fail miserably in Aussie, The Junkies weren't given enough to keep them at the level they wanted so they just used it to supplement their habit rather then control it, and they weren't interested in the rehab, They were there for the drugs.

And of course the public weren't happy about paying these people to be scumbag junkies in the first place, never mind paying for their smack as well.

The real world, kicks arses at every opportunity.