Power-to-weight ratio law and bikes

[miloking]

Having said all that. I'm a huge supporter of this law. Why? It'll drop the 250 bike prices down, I hope!

Keep your shitty 250s who cares about the over inflated price nobody wants to ride them anyway (my first bike was 400 and guess what iam still alive)....also this law will only over inflate prices of the "approved" bikes instead and achieve nothing!

[The Pastor]

Keep your shitty 250s who cares about the over inflated price nobody wants to ride them anyway (my first bike was 400 and guess what iam still alive)....also this law will only over inflate prices of the "approved" bikes instead and achieve nothing!

Well I like them, and I ride them.

And i'll tell you what, your 1000cc wont be the first 1000cc bike i've given the learn to.

[scumdog]

Fuckin aye spot on.

The publics perception of bikers will ensure this legislation is passed without a doubt - but in all honesty what they know?sweet fuck all

Too many bikers are REALLY really good at giving the public a crap perception about bikers, the fact the public 'know' f.a. doesn't matter.

[Spazman727]

From this thread it seems that the law assumes that the rider is about 90kg. That means since I'm only about 65kg, does that mean the bike I could have would, in reality, have a higher power to weight ratio than someone who weighs 90 kg or more?

Also, while I agree with the new law because some 250s are as fast, if not faster, than some 650s, doesn't it mean that a small guy like me could get a heavy 650 and be allowed to ride it, but since I'm small (and therefore not particularly strong) the bike could be heavier than I was able to handle? I understand that the weight doesn't really matter when you are going, but stopped at lights etc the weight could be an issue. I know this would be the same as when someone goes from their restricted to their full, but they, obviously,(hopefully?) have far more experience with how to handle a bike at low speeds than a brand new learner.

[Spazman727]

Yeah, it's happening Dave. I think moped sales will fall through the floor more likely though...

As for a realistic limit, like everything else to do with road safety (sic) look to Victoria as a start point.

And those who think it's just for bikes, I believe you may be surprised. I'm sure (although I have NO information to prove it) that bikes will be the start. If this is proven to work they'll try it on car licenses. And I couldn't be happier about that. Let them start to drive at 16, and kw/tonne ratios until at least age 18.

But that would mean drivers would be able to drive really powerful cars at the same time as they are allowed to drink. It's definitely a good idea to restrict car drivers' power to weight ratio, but they should have it until they have their full.

[gatch]

I think it will be good news if your motorcycle shop is full of heavy and weak motorcycles.

Sales on harleys will sky rocket...

Fucking government.

Time for another guy fawkes anyone ?

[pete376403]

hmm a 650 berg on the oz list, that would be fun around town

An IT465 (also on the Oz list) with some decent tyres could make an amusing learner bike, too.

[quickbuck]

From this thread it seems that the law assumes that the rider is about 90kg. That means since I'm only about 65kg, does that mean the bike I could have would, in reality, have a higher power to weight ratio than someone who weighs 90 kg or more?

It does mean you will have a better power to weight ratio, however it wouldn't have the same effect on performance as actually riding the bike better!

[Dare]

660 is the absolute limit, there is nothing on the list over 660cc (bearing in mind, this is the Australian list , we don't have one yet, the NZ government have said they will copy the Australian list) .

I see RFV400 on the list but not VFR. In fact I see alot of odd gaps, but then does Auz even import the same range of bikes as us? Coz if they don't people are gonna be annoyed!

Truth be told people can crash anything, as long as 650+ bikes and I-4 600 super sports (and maybe some of the more insane motards) aren't on the list I think there shouldn't be all this micromanaging.

[GSF_Lou]

I had no idea of this law change until a friend mentioned it today.
I see that the bike I've just bought (250 Bandit) isnt on the aussie list of acceptable or unacceptable.

[St_Gabriel]

I had no idea of this law change until a friend mentioned it today.
I see that the bike I've just bought (250 Bandit) isnt on the aussie list of acceptable or unacceptable.

I think it is that anything up to and including 250 is legal unless specifically excluded.

[GSF_Lou]

I hope so. Although if they take till 2012 to change the laws I should have a full licence by then anyway.

[Suntoucher]

Any idea when it will happen? GV650 falls under the criteria and was going to get one when I get my full, 2012 will say I've already got it, but earlier would be nicer.

[St_Gabriel]

Any idea when it will happen? GV650 falls under the criteria and was going to get one when I get my full, 2012 will say I've already got it, but earlier would be nicer.

Be careful with that suntoucher, from my understanding the GV650 is a "LAMS" version with a lower power output than standard, which is listed on the registration papers. Hyosung can and will remove the restriction to bring the bike up to full power but are obliged to report it to the relevant state/territory registration authority that the bike is no longer LAMS compliant and not able to be ridden on a learners or provisional license.

Im now in a hurry to get through my learners and restricted as i want to be able to sell my 250 for a semi reasonable amount. (still 6 months away at the absolute earliest)

[Blackflagged]

Good thing about a GV650 or DR650 is it`s deem safe for learners, yet over 600cc so "dangerous" and the Govt collects a bigger Tax $$$$

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