No ticket quota for police? Read this...

[MarkH]

Here's a question - if thee WAS a quota (not asying there is and not saying there isn't) why would everyone have a problem with that?

I can't quite see how anyone can have so much trouble understanding that quota = cops picking easy spots to give out lots of tickets.

The anti-speeding campaign ads show a car coming into a corner too hot and killing some kid's mom.

The reality on the roads is that there are 4 lane roads with a speed limit of 50 and a speed camera at the bottom of a hill giving out tickets to drivers who would feel comfortable on that bit of road driving at 80, but because the limit is 50 they split the difference and drive at 65. There are plenty of roads in NZ where most drivers feel safe and comfortable at 15 above the limit - the cops spend their time ticketing on these roads rather than the roads where most drive slower but the occasional idiot crashes when driving too fast.

Really the roads that are the safest to exceed the posted speed limit on are the ones that are most likely to allow a police officer the chance to meet his/her quota. Road safety is something for the advertising campaign, not for a police officer to worry about.

[Patrick]

Well, Winston and Glenngate are getting a bit old....
But seriously, if the term 'quota' was admitted, then we could stop arguing about what is meant by KPI, targets etc and get on with the business of playing cat and mouse with you buggers

This is true. We can write as many as we want, the bosses want 1 ticket per hour patrolling. Call it what ya want....

Play away... nothing has actually changed really, has it...???? It is what it is..... game on????

[ynot slow]

This is true. We can write as many as we want, the bosses want 1 ticket per hour patrolling. Call it what ya want....

Play away... nothing has actually changed really, has it...???? It is what it is..... game on????

1 per hour patrolling would be pretty easy to get I would think,especially around the road works etc.In an hour between NP and Stratford any day you'd piss in lol.

What pisses most off is the lack of descretion which is seemed to be missing.Then again when you guys go to a car/bike to suss out why the person was speeding and get abused(was in a car when the cop came over,the driver was pissed off and ranted on about the fine,quotas etc,this before the cop even said any reason),turned out the cop might have let him off,but after copping the verbal said fuck you basically.

I get pissed off if I get caught,especially if it is because I thought I was doing 110km,and get pinged at 114km or so,usually a quick glance at speedo is enough to realise $120 invoice coming.Having said that tough for me,although as people have said the times it happened the road was dry,no traffic just listening to the stereo.

[Patrick]

1 per hour patrolling would be pretty easy to get I would think,especially around the road works etc.In an hour between NP and Stratford any day you'd piss in lol.

Can't argue that one...

What pisses most off is the lack of descretion which is seemed to be missing.

1:1 ratio remember? Discretion can and still does exist... thats where the other 55 minutes in the hour goes toward...

Then again when you guys go to a car/bike to suss out why the person was speeding and get abused(was in a car when the cop came over,the driver was pissed off and ranted on about the fine,quotas etc,this before the cop even said any reason),turned out the cop might have let him off,but after copping the verbal said fuck you basically.

Yep - happens sooooooo often.... ya don't mind one bit issuing out then ay? But then you hear about how much of an arsehole you were for ticketing him when he "was as nice as pie..."

I get pissed off if I get caught,

Me too... sigh....

especially if it is because I thought I was doing 110km,and get pinged at 114km or so,usually a quick glance at speedo is enough to realise $120 invoice coming.

A cheap detection device, that one.... quite effective...

Having said that tough for me,although as people have said the times it happened the road was dry,no traffic just listening to the stereo.

So they say... Two sides to the story, perhaps????????

[Pussy]

Hey Patrick... go and ping some New Plymouth red light runners, you'll have your annual quota in a week!

[MSTRS:Me]

Play away... .... game on????

But in the interests of fairness...whaddaya got under the bonnet? I wouldn't want to have an unfair advantage in the PTW stakes...

So they say... Two sides to the story, perhaps????????

And somewhere in the middle lies the truth...

[ynot slow]

End of the day I'd rather be paying than giving,who'd be an enforcement officer?Same as meter maids/people,get abused for doing their job,hell they don't park the car in a wrong park,or overstay the limit.

[Irontusk]

Well, that was a bit of a read..
Anyways, the way I see it is the government wants us to speed, they do like our money.. and cops NEED us to speed otherwise they'd be out of a job. (There are other traffic issues that they should be dealing with, but if there weren't so many people just that little bit over the limit then there simply wouldn't be enough 'work' for them.)

Also, not everyone recieves an equal message from getting a fine.. example, the overpaid politicians have more money than they deserve and more money than people who actually work for it.

Something from back on page 4 by Toaster.. MPs SHOULD set a good example, if they think the rules that they think up are good enough to force on everyone else, then THEY should follow them too. (There was a really strong example of this hypocrisy pointed out on The Late Show last week, with Sarah Palin (spelling?..) saying it is up to her daughter to decide if she has an abortion or not, but no one else should be allowed that choice)

End of the day I'd rather be paying than giving,who'd be an enforcement officer?Same as meter maids/people,get abused for doing their job,hell they don't park the car in a wrong park,or overstay the limit.

Actually there's a guy (in the states I think) who has made filming meter maids and law enforcers doing the exact things they're supposed to be fining people for a bit of a hobby. One I remember was a cop ticketing someone for parking somewhere that blocked a fire hydrant, she then got in her car, pulled a U turn and blocked the fire hydrant on the other side of the road while she went into a coffee shop.

(I am aware of one idea in here that is the product of a tiny amount of truth and large amount of stupid. The stupid seems to be necessary to put the small amount of truth forward.)

[Patrick]

But in the interests of fairness...whaddaya got under the bonnet? ...

Donuts.... too many donuts......

[Patrick]

Hey Patrick... go and ping some New Plymouth red light runners, you'll have your annual quota in a week!

Not allowed to...

You doing the ride on Sunday 20th????

[MSTRS:Me]

Donuts.... too many donuts......

You must spread...

Not allowed to...

You seconded to the donut abuse squad?

[Swoop]

Donuts.... too many donuts......

Not enough information here...

Fillings?
Flavours?
Real cream fillings.....

[Patrick]

Not enough information here...

Fillings?
Flavours?
Real cream fillings.....

Yes.... ????

[Pussy]

Not allowed to...

You doing the ride on Sunday 20th????

I'll have to see how my work commitments go.
Go on... go bash the red light runners... and the wankers that drive at first light with no lights, or just their parklights, on.

[Conquiztador]

I see a opening here... Have donuts in the bag and you have a chance of getting off that ticket.