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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicksta View Post
    The majority of “speeding” fatalities are caused through travel too fast for the conditions but below the speed limit. Not even 2% (two percent) are caused through travel above set speed limits. So get your FACTS right. This thread was about shit hyosung breaks maybe you should stick to the thread instead of crying about bikers speed and putting others at risk. what are you gonna change mr high and mighty?
    All right, we'll live that bit alone then -- I'd like to hear about the second paragraph though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by munta2001 View Post
    im still interested to find out how this caliper "fell" off..
    I would like some technical terms with this as well.

    fell off is rather non descriptive. Did it wiggle lose or shear a bolt???

    Rather than getting all defensive and attacking everyone, sort out the facts that need to be said and just say them. From there stop giving a fuck about peoples opinions and go on living.

    FYI: Aprilla swingarms developed stress fractures, caused by metal fatigue. Fatigue is one of the most difficult engineering cases to overcome and as such occasionally they get it wrong. They do not come from the factory with the swingarm in bits or with massive cracks or bolts missing. Fatigue recalls are common, and just about every vechile is likely to eventualy come under some scrutiny for fatigue.
    If the bolts on your Hyo sheared off the brakes just saying so would have saved alot of time and effort. and in which case itd be a big hyo fuck up, as these should be designed below the fatigue limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    All right, we'll live that bit alone then -- I'd like to hear about the second paragraph though?
    "Better work storys" got a few friends working in the force. It has left me with little respect for the police.im sorry if it seemed like i was judging scummy as a person that was not my intention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostinflyz View Post
    I would like some technical terms with this as well.

    fell off is rather non descriptive. Did it wiggle lose or shear a bolt???

    Rather than getting all defensive and attacking everyone, sort out the facts that need to be said and just say them. From there stop giving a fuck about peoples opinions and go on living.

    FYI: Aprilla swingarms developed stress fractures, caused by metal fatigue. Fatigue is one of the most difficult engineering cases to overcome and as such occasionally they get it wrong. They do not come from the factory with the swingarm in bits or with massive cracks or bolts missing. Fatigue recalls are common, and just about every vechile is likely to eventualy come under some scrutiny for fatigue.
    If the bolts on your Hyo sheared off the brakes just saying so would have saved alot of time and effort. and in which case itd be a big hyo fuck up, as these should be designed below the fatigue limit.

    merry christmas
    i already have a thread about how my caliper fell off so go find it if you wanna know about it... slick you backed down ya pussy... no bling for you lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    i already have a thread about how my caliper fell off so go find it if you wanna know about it... slick you backed down ya pussy... no bling for you lol
    Here's the thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=61167 Apparently the bolts just vibrated loose, which would be an assembly fault -- do the dealers put the callipers on or is it done at the factory?

    By the way, saw this thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=76677 Can't be bothered reading through this thread all again, but is this the same bike that crashed into a car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    Here's the thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=61167 Apparently the bolts just vibrated loose, which would be an assembly fault -- do the dealers put the callipers on or is it done at the factory?

    By the way, saw this thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=76677 Can't be bothered reading through this thread all again, but is this the same bike that crashed into a car?
    aparently the calipers come fitted but you have to take them off and put em back on for summen, cant mem what but thats what the dealer said, was just a human error... they happen... alot so all if forgiven

    and yeah its the same bike.. but it was the car that hit the bike even the police report has confirmed that. Which is why i got my mechanic to check the front brakes to see if it was caused from the accident and he said that its more then likely just the shit brakes on it wearing quickly and becoming loose ... no idea but yeah tha wha he said... talked to dealers i purchased the bike off and they are gona look into it so yeah... no more bitching till they say what there opinion is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    i already have a thread about how my caliper fell off so go find it if you wanna know about it... slick you backed down ya pussy... no bling for you lol
    haha not quite. as has now been shown the brakes fell off due to incompetence not remotly related to hyosung. im not bagging you on that one, but hyosung provided you a perfect bike, and some fool forgot to tighten up the brake caliper bolts.

    Either way i was stating my opinion, and you stated yours. aint no pussy here........................muther fucker. hahahaha just kidding. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostinflyz View Post
    haha not quite. as has now been shown the brakes fell off due to incompetence not remotly related to hyosung. im not bagging you on that one, but hyosung provided you a perfect bike, and some fool forgot to tighten up the brake caliper bolts.

    Either way i was stating my opinion, and you stated yours. aint no pussy here........................muther fucker. hahahaha just kidding. lol
    lol well that ones going god no's where ... the caliper is old news.... you confused about what thread your in ..... this is about the leaver :S or am i drunk and imagining shit agn ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post


    the bike has been well maintained and is cleaned and checked once a week, this is not the first time my hyo-shit's brakes have failed me.... the first was when my front calliper fell off, this time the master cylinder seized...... nothing like cheap shit... back brakes not the biggie was the front i was more worried about, the only time you need back brakes is for wheel stands and i wont be doing any of them on the hyo
    Yeah this really does sound like a case where the manufacturer has either some serious design flaws in the brakes, or in the manufacture/ QC process. Brake fade etc are all symptoms of pushing a bike past its limit...shit falling off is not.

    Out of interest, what has the general consenses been when dealing with Hyosung NZ? Some of you hyosung owners must have tried?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lostinflyz View Post
    im not bagging you on that one, but hyosung provided you a perfect bike, and some fool forgot to tighten up the brake caliper bolts.
    ...lock tight...

    my lever is sweet i have it set to 1 (the closest it can be to handle) and my back end lifts up before i come close to hitting the bar.

    i could see how ANY issues with your brakes would have you wondering and loose confidence in your bike. fingers crossed you sort it and start to enjoy the riding until you get your next bike..
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    Yeah the lever flaw, besides the fact that when set on 6 it could collapse back to one which in itself is a dangerous flaw; pulling back to the bar too easily, is most likely a brake fluid issue, it either needs replacing or has air bubbles in. If it is truly just a lame arse master cylinder, Hyosung engineers should be shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    What your talking about is riding quick and pushing things on the road, and on a bike that does something you're not expecting.
    Other things that can happen;
    Some one pulls out of a driveway in front of you
    Chain snaps
    Flat tyre
    Some one has spilt shit on the road
    Some one coming the other way cutting the corner
    Lots of things can happen you don't expect, things that really get your heart pumping
    The harder you go - the more often it happens, and the more often it happen the sooner you'll find a situation you don't escape
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtec View Post
    ... If it is truly just a lame arse master cylinder, Hyosung engineers should be shot.
    Yep, there are issues with the master cylinders on Hyos. Ive had my rear master cylinder replaced with one from a VFR as the original just plain died (have no more details on the exact problem unfortunately). It was red baron that sorted it for me and they said they have seen the similar master cylinder issues before...Im just glad it was the rear and not the front for me!

    That said it may not have happened in this case, though regardless its an area where hyosung need to lift their game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leaf View Post
    Yep, there are issues with the master cylinders on Hyos. Ive had my rear master cylinder replaced with one from a VFR as the original just plain died
    Did it die on you without any notice? I'm just wondering are these not the kind of problems you can detect with good weekly inspections?

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    It was something to do with the inside of the cylinder, so only a resonably thorough brake inspection (i.e more than looking at, and fiddling with, the caliper and pads) would have picked it up. Cant say i take apart and check the inner working of the master cylinder frequently. There was indeed no warning for it letting go. I pushed the pedal and it worked, sometime later i pushed the pedal and it didnt. go figure

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