Idea for a motorcycling TV progamme

[Pedrostt500]

This is just an idea I want to float to the KB Comunity.
I would like to see a TV Programme dedicated to Motorcycling and all facits of it. I thought a Motor Cycle version of the BBC Top Gear show.
This could be a good way to win over Joe and Jane Public, change some attitudes, & give some air time to our Kiwi top riders in their various feilds of the sport, both Nationaly and on the World stage.
This would be good for the Motorcycle Industry to sell their Products, ie bike road tests, and off road tests, accessorie tests, safty gear tests, and demos of all of the above, the hows, whys and where.

So ok Guys and Gurls let me have your views, and if you like the Idea and work in the TV industry, or are a media student please run with it if you choose to do so.

If you dont like this Idea please say so to.

Thanks
Pedro

[Big Dave]

Problem is the potential viewing audience isn't big enough to attract the advertising revenues that Top Gear style production values demand.

[Boob Johnson]

As long as Katmouse or the Moron Few don't feature in it then it sounds great


But seriously now, sure the viewer numbers are gunna be low but it doesn't mean it can't happen. I for one would support it as much as I could. It may even spark some interest in more motorcycling events actually taking place or at least being filmed.

[McJim]

You sir are an idealist. This has allowed you to view the world backwards.

It's a great idea - make the programme and change peoples perceptions while making a programme that you would enjoy.

The reason it's backwards is that producers (the people that pay the unfeasibly large sums of money to make, market and air television programmes) need the demand to be there first. This means that the audience drives the programming. This is why television is full of so much shite....like soaps, game shows and other chewing gum for the brain.

They televise drifting now...has this made me change my opinion on drifters and think "Hey they're really neat guys that have made tasteful changes to their vehicles"? No. I still get angry at fuckwits dragging gravel across my apexes in their silly lowered pieces of shit.

So while it's a nice idea....and it comes from a world I'd like to live in...I'm currently in the real world and it's a bit of a non starter I think.

Go prove me wrong Best of luck.

[hellkat]

I agree a bit with McJim ... in principal its not a bad idea, but one has to wonder why its not being done already.

Ya could get Richard Hammond to do a star turn, seeing as how he seems to be the one Top Gear peep who shows a proper interest in bikes ... I'd happily polish his leathers any day ... from the inside ... with my tongue

The demand for the programmes ought to be there - its just a matter of finding the right person ... I remember when that chopper-building thing first came out - I only ever read about it on the Horse Back Street Choppers forum, every week the guys on there would dissect what was being done. It looked like it was just going to be major engineering and custombuilding geekage amongst the chopper-building world.

But then somehow it got some attention, maybe the showy oafishness of the irredeemably nauseating Paul Teutel seemed to catch fire (I wish his moustache would!) ... and suddenly people who had NO interest in bikes whatsoever were suddenly reckoning it was the best programme on telly.

How about suggesting topics for a series, different aspects of bikerness, see what crops up amongst the pros and cons of each one, the possible revenue streams you could attempt to get to sponsor each programme, and THEN see whether or not its viable.

Much like any media thing, though, you'd have people vying for more airtime in the programme than they really merit ... depending on how much they had contributed in sponsorship.

Maybe keep it to a similar format, short clips of different aspects: racing, track stuff, cute engineering, touring, custom building, etc.

[McJim]

Here's an idea to grab the attention of the masses - naked biker chicks on bikes. that will get the ratings up

[hellkat]

It didn't do too much damage on the Men and Motors channel. Decent petrolhead programmes, interspersed with saucy-girlie things (albeit scantily clad and/or heavily made up, rather than actually naked, LOL) Many is the time I have endured some programme full of tartybints, whilst waiting to get an eyeful of some decent bit-of-rough beefcake in a bike programme on that channel.

Off you go, then Pedro ... go and make us a format for a series. If you based it on the Top Gear format, or looked at what bike programmes are shown on Men and Motors ... it should be easy enough to fill your series schedule with relevant things bikerish.

Then "all you have to do" is figure out who to pester for sponsorship of each sector

[Conquiztador]

Sadly only way for any programme to be viable in NZ is to get NZ On Air funding. Apart from the reality programmes that sadly now are the go, the "make a star" ones and the ones that appeal to a vide cross section it would be hard to get more then a cult following for something like this. And that would mean off peak time and that then would mean a lack of sponsorship/advertising.

I would like to put my neck out and say that there is quite a few of us bikers in NZ who have no real interest in the latest and greatest in bikes. Me for ex, I am a big HD fan. But anything after the Showel makes me go to sleep. Also factory bikes are considered to be a little of a drag by me and many I know.

So even if you started to calculate the bikers in NZ that could watch the programme, you would soon find that it might only appeal to a small % of us??

But hey, I have been known to be wrong at times.

If I was passionate about doing this I would find a backer, get NZ On Air interested and provide advertising oportunities in the programme for potential backers. And who knows, with a low budget and some knowledge in doing film to keep the costs down you might succeed??

Try to appeal to all sectors:
Weekend bikers
HOG types
Females
Racers
Dirt ones
Classic
and so on.

Have a "Biker of the week and his ride" piece where a interesting charachter with a odd bike would be allowed to be him/her self.

Have some interesting new gear
A NZ custom bike
Euro/American bike
Jap bike
Maybe even a Chinese one??

And then try to get feedback what ppl like and change the format to increase the numbers..

See what U done, now I am starting to warm to this...

[mowgli]

I'd watch it - good idea.

[Kickaha]

Problem is the potential viewing audience isn't big enough to attract the advertising revenues that Top Gear style production values demand.

Didn't Bentman feature on one a few years back?

No. I still get angry at fuckwits dragging gravel across my apexes in their silly lowered pieces of shit.

They have drifters in Invercargill? anyway thats an issure for track management, no problems at Ruapuna with it

I agree a bit with McJim ... in principal its not a bad idea, but one has to wonder why its not being done already.

No money in it

Maybe keep it to a similar format, short clips of different aspects: racing, track stuff, cute engineering, touring, custom building, etc.

That was vaugely how I remember the program that was on a few years ago, one in a similar format has run on SKY but only featuring different forms of racing

[homer]

This is just an idea I want to float to the KB Comunity.
I would like to see a TV Programme dedicated to Motorcycling and all facits of it. I thought a Motor Cycle version of the BBC Top Gear show.
This could be a good way to win over Joe and Jane Public, change some attitudes, & give some air time to our Kiwi top riders in their various feilds of the sport, both Nationaly and on the World stage.
This would be good for the Motorcycle Industry to sell their Products, ie bike road tests, and off road tests, accessorie tests, safty gear tests, and demos of all of the above, the hows, whys and where.

So ok Guys and Gurls let me have your views, and if you like the Idea and work in the TV industry, or are a media student please run with it if you choose to do so.

If you dont like this Idea please say so to.

Thanks
Pedro

Funny you post this as just a week ago i had wondered why theres no motorcycling show , dedicated to motorcycling in nz.
be a damn good idea .
After all it would be good to replace the high performance car show on inthe sunday arvo.
Ive watched it but , its quite boring watching fuckn cars drifting sideways for like half a fucken hour.
At least it could be useful tips .
my 2 cents

[mowgli]

They have drifters in Invercargil?

Vagrants more like ... with poor spelling

[Maha]

This is just an idea I want to float to the KB Comunity.
I would like to see a TV Programme dedicated to Motorcycling and all facits of it. I thought a Motor Cycle version of the BBC Top Gear show.
This could be a good way to win over Joe and Jane Public, change some attitudes, & give some air time to our Kiwi top riders in their various feilds of the sport, both Nationaly and on the World stage.
This would be good for the Motorcycle Industry to sell their Products, ie bike road tests, and off road tests, accessorie tests, safty gear tests, and demos of all of the above, the hows, whys and where.

So ok Guys and Gurls let me have your views, and if you like the Idea and work in the TV industry, or are a media student please run with it if you choose to do so.

If you dont like this Idea please say so to.

Thanks
Pedro

I also had this very idea in April (well the idea came to me months before) have a read through my thread. I got as far as to talk to a Producer friend about it and then my mind switched to something else. If you want to know what a TV Producer thinks about it..pm me.

Here is my thread
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=71402

[slowpoke]

I'm another "knocker" I'm afraid.

To appeal to a sizeable audience it would have to have "something for everybody" just like most of the bike mags do....which is exactly why I don't buy 'em. I won't waste my hard earned cash or time watching/reading something that is 80% boring. I couldn't care less about the latest scooter low emissions breakthrough or how a full dressed tourer handles two-up, or what the roads are like some place I'm never gonna go.

Basically I am a niche market within a niche market so unless something targets my specific motorcycling interests then I'm not interested.

On the upside they somehow manage to get "Poker" on TV and anything has gotta be a step up from that.....

[1 Free Man]

There's an old saying "From tiny acorns mighty oak trees grow". I'm sure Graham Sinclair went throught the same thing when he started his fishing show and now it is well watched in NZ and off shore to I believe.
You have the acorn all you need to do is plant it in the right place feed it with some bullshit place some pretty ladies around it, some bikes to, and go for it! I'll watch this space. Don't forget the scooters and the old farts on their 250's just getting into the riding fratenity. (Looking for a spot on the show LOL). The cruiser guys and Don't forget the Ladies that ride. It's awsome some of the bikes you see the girls riding they are worthy of a spot in the show and the trike riders/drivers as well.