Do you have ID on you..??

[Sniper]

Easy just use your real name as a nick........ Unless you are WINJA

Hehehe, top points for that, hehehe

[Skunk]

I have a 'home' business card.
Must put blood type on it when I find out what it is...

[Riff Raff]

Really good idea. After Saturday week-ago's experience with Mrs H where she was incapable of answering questions, I'm not sure what the ambo dude would have written down had I not been there.

She would have been female Unknown UNKNOWN until identified.
Good idea to have ID with you. I have my drivers licence and ambulance ID with me at all times, but a card with who to call and blood group would be a good idea. I'll do it today!

[sels1]

but the fact that I have no family or anyone in NZ to contact if I crash kinda makes it just a peice of paper.

Damn

Thats no good Sniper - have you thought of putting yourself up for adoption?
and you are part of the KB family!

[spudchucka]

I've just called the LTSA to find out if emergency contact numbers are on the driver licencing system.

They are not.

Can any of our police officers shed any light on how they go about finding out this information? And if having it on your person is the best way to go or not?

At a crash for instance the first enquiry would be the vehicle regos. They obviously have names and addresses linked to them. A drivers licence or any other document on the victim is an obvious enquiry. The drviers licence system holds addresses but these aren't always kept up to date but its still a good line of enquiry. Police also have access to Telecom phone listings so if an address can be determined the phone number is only a computer transaction away. PDA's, laptop's, cell phones, diaries all contain personal information. I've never had any issues identifying a person killed or injured in a crash, homicides are obviously different because of the offender element and persons covering their tracks.

[Riff Raff]

She would have been female Unknown UNKNOWN until identified.
Good idea to have ID with you. I have my drivers licence and ambulance ID with me at all times, but a card with who to call and blood group would be a good idea. I'll do it today!

Oh yes, and we estimate your age as well - so considering how shitty people look after crashes, we tend to put quite a few years on!!!

[Paul in NZ]

well... What about a registry with a KB numbered sticker on your helmet or a laminated card in your wallet.

The ambo (or who ever) would call a phone number (0800?), voice answers with a welcome message and asks you to push in the number on the sticker or card ie (please enter the 5 digit code) and it will give your name and details plus offer to contact a relative?

I could talk to the Telco's.

Paul N

HEY! What about text the number and it will text the details back! Thats better!

[Sniper]

Thats no good Sniper - have you thought of putting yourself up for adoption?
and you are part of the KB family!

Never thought of it, so here I go.

Up for adoption

One ex South African looking for kind, generous home to protect.
I can cook, clean and handle 12 different kinds of weapons.

I promise to be low maintenance and contribute my huntings to the table. I like dogs, cats and other small furry creatures to love and cuddle.
I dislike bad drivers, thieves, carnies and large un-furry animals.

Please contact Sniper if you wish to take a shot at this once in a lifetime oppertunity (Unless you put me up for adoption again) :confused2

[Sniper]

HEY! What about text the number and it will text the details back! Thats better!

Hey great idea

[bugjuice]

well... What about a registry with a KB numbered sticker on your helmet or a laminated card in your wallet.

The ambo (or who ever) would call a phone number (0800?), voice answers with a welcome message and asks you to push in the number on the sticker or card ie (please enter the 5 digit code) and it will give your name and details plus offer to contact a relative?

I could talk to the Telco's.

Paul N

HEY! What about text the number and it will text the details back! Thats better!

not a bad idea actually.. and I work for a telco.. I'll ask and see what I get back.. If it's a supported idea here, I can ask around at work, see what strings I can pull.

I guess it'd probably have to be a subscribed membership thing, as databases and 0800 numbers don't just grow on trees..

If KB staff (if that's the right word) don't want to be completely associated with it, still might be good as a stand-alone service to offer to all bikers and anyone else who could use the service..

Like I said, if it's supported, I'll ask at work and see what I get back. Hopefully not

[Hitcher]

I can cook, clean and handle 12 different kinds of weapons.

Hmmm. Remington pie.

[Paul in NZ]

not a bad idea actually.. and I work for a telco.. I'll ask and see what I get back.. If it's a supported idea here, I can ask around at work, see what strings I can pull.

I guess it'd probably have to be a subscribed membership thing, as databases and 0800 numbers don't just grow on trees..

If KB staff (if that's the right word) don't want to be completely associated with it, still might be good as a stand-alone service to offer to all bikers and anyone else who could use the service..

Like I said, if it's supported, I'll ask at work and see what I get back. Hopefully not

I'll send you the address you can post the royalty cheques too!

Paul N

[Slim]

Lots of useful information...

OK.

What about someone in my situation: Live alone & foster parents would be preferred contact???

[bugjuice]

ok, well after talking thru with a few people at work, we came across a few things which might not be great. There are the usual security problems, and the costs etc. It would be a possible system, but;

then who'd update it -I think a secure website could be set up, which would put the ownership of details on the card holder;

the costs - an annual or monthly subscription fee would probably have to be set up;

the potential abuse of the system - if your card/ID is lost/stolen, someone could call and get your details. There would be no way to know the services from Jimbo who you've pissed off.

Callers' numbers are registered, but without going into it more, we're not sure at the moment, if the number calling can be traced to see who's details are accessed.

Plus, the ultimate 2 questions - 1) who'd trust it when your DL should have your details, and 2) would you pay and use it? If a handful of people use it, it'd be very expensive. If 1,000s used it, it'd be really cheap.

Doesn't have to be bikers either - anyone doing anything who think at one time, they might be in a spot of bother could use it.. surfers, hang-gliding, MTBing, even cagers, if they really wanted.. no limits there.. it's just getting it right and getting it out

[XP@]

Interesting ideas...

I carry a piece of paper in my wallet with clearly readable "emergency contact"
I also have the entry on my phone "Home"

What about an SOS type bracelet or a Dog Tag. (excellent if you have alergies, or other conditions)

Stickers on both sides of the helmet near the chin strap saying "Do NOT REMOVE" are useful.

I think I would prefer to have my beloved informed after I had been picked up. so the call is made by a calm emergency proffesional "he is in a stable condition and has just arrived at the hospital" instead of some passer-by calling and saying "Its a bloody mess, his legs are all over the place what do I do???".

IMHO the dog tags are good because they usually remain under the jacket so it should be the trained first aider who gets to it, they know to save my life before calling family, joe public may not. The helmet sticker is good cos it stops joe public exposing gray matter.

The only better solution would be an onboard satalite phone with an impact detector and gps so when you crash in the wop wops it sends a message to the 111 system with your exact location and severity of impact.