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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Is going for a ride all about going out for a bit of "fun" - or is arriving safely at your destination having enjoyed the ride and motorcycling as a whole a higher priority even if it means you had to sacrifice some "fun" along the way.?
    Maybe...
    Then again, perhaps not.


    I'm not sure, Ack (Shirley).



    Ah... what was the question again?
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Of course. Precisely the point. It is how much an individual places priority on having "fun" on their bike.

    Is going for a ride all about going out for a bit of "fun" - or is arriving safely at your destination having enjoyed the ride and motorcycling as a whole a higher priority even if it means you had to sacrifice some "fun" along the way.?
    And what it is that constitutes fun for that individual. Nowhere is it written that one can't have maximum fun on a bike in the appropriate situation, thereby being able to do it all again tomorrow and the next day etc.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    And what it is that constitutes fun for that individual. Nowhere is it written that one can't have maximum fun on a bike in the appropriate situation, thereby being able to do it all again tomorrow and the next day etc.
    It's more funner if it's inappropriate.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    It's more funner if it's inappropriate.
    I resist the FunPolice and all they stand for, but I wouldn't go that far...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Of course. Precisely the point. It is how much an individual places priority on having "fun" on their bike.

    Is going for a ride all about going out for a bit of "fun" - or is arriving safely at your destination having enjoyed the ride and motorcycling as a whole a higher priority even if it means you had to sacrifice some "fun" along the way.?
    Well, I've had fun riding at 30kph. And I've had fun riding at 130kph. And someone who looks exactly like me, but is really my evil cousin has ridden at 230kph .I can't quite recall my evil cousin's name, or where he lives, isn't it sad how y' memory goes when y' get old. But I do know that he had a lot of fun doing it. In the course of a million or so kilometres, I've managed to avoid ever hurting myself (or anyone else), cos I don't like getting hurt. But I reckon I had fun on most of those journeys.

    I've deliberately gone out for a ride in the teeth of a full blown cyclone. I couldn't really say I enjoyed the ride, but it was rather fun.

    I've not always arrived at my destination , indeed I seldom arrive at whatever my original nominal destination was, but I have always got to wherever I ended up safely, and usually had a lot of fun along the way

    I don't subscribe to the theory that having fun must imply dangerous or reckless behaviour. That's the sort of weasellly nonsense the Greens spout, immediately before they call for some innocent pastime to be banned.

    But then, I'm just a simple and innocent old man, so my pleasures are simple and innocent one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I don't subscribe to the theory that having fun must imply dangerous or reckless behaviour. That's the sort of weasellly nonsense the Greens spout, immediately before they call for some innocent pastime to be banned.
    Pre-fucking-cisely
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I don't subscribe to the theory that having fun must imply dangerous or reckless behaviour. That's the sort of weasellly nonsense the Greens spout, immediately before they call for some innocent pastime to be banned.
    Actually many motorcycles subscribe to that theory...

    "It's more funner if it's inappropriate"
    e.g.. someone posts this vid in KB saying "ZXR9 riders....respect!"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUlX4qavDTk

    With comments from others here in KB...

    "impressed"

    "man that guy can handle that bike!"

    "Thought it was funny when he overtook the motorcycle cop though. Good riding."

    "Very skillful riding"

    "Awesome riding."

    "He must know that bike is gonna react so well."

    "All I can say is BALLLLLLLLLLLLS"

    "this guy got some mad skills!"

    "Crazy but that chick sure can ride!!!"

    "He does have balls alright!"



    Yet nobody ever says "good skills!" to a vid like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvsnGQchHn0

    There is something fundamentally fucked up with the attitude many approach motorcycling with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Wow! That guy sure could ride well, and his bike was AWESOme!
    Didja check out his mad skills in not slipping on that cowpat, and stopping in time for the tractor?
    Respect!
    Most of all, I really admired his sign-reading skills and comprehension: he could get a job as my proof-reader.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Wow! That guy sure could ride well, and his bike was AWESOme!
    .. he could get a job as my proof-reader.
    Definitely. Post #78 "more funner" don't you know it's "much more funnerer" . Get it right! (p.s. you might even get away with a "auw" on the end of it...)
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    Sadly dipshit, I suspect that there'd be a number of motorcyclists who still would miss all the BIG WARNINGS even if they were spelt out for them like in the vid clip.
    I lahk to moove eet moove eet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    Be wary of passing a parked truck or bus etc. Many a motorcyclist has been caught out by the car that was exiting a driveway just in front of the truck nosing out just far enough to see what was coming. Roll off the throttle, cover the brake, give the truck the widest birth practical, and be observant.
    Or one turning right. There might just be an idiot turning right towards you in spite of the fact that they have no visibility of your lane (happened to my wife).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Of course. Precisely the point. It is how much an individual places priority on having "fun" on their bike.

    Is going for a ride all about going out for a bit of "fun" - or is arriving safely at your destination having enjoyed the ride and motorcycling as a whole a higher priority even if it means you had to sacrifice some "fun" along the way.?
    I do see what you're saying. However, I think we differ on the amount of "fun" we're willing to sacrifice for added safety. I have absolutely no problem with this, a boring world it would be if we all agreed all the time. The problem comes when someone willing to sacrifice more "fun" than I am tries to impose their views on me through law.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Wow! That guy sure could ride well, and his bike was AWESOme!
    Didja check out his mad skills in not slipping on that cowpat, and stopping in time for the tractor?
    That video gives me the shits. Particularly the tractor bit.

    I might just stick to riding on racetracks from now on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Actually many motorcycles subscribe to that theory...

    e.g.. someone posts this vid in KB saying "ZXR9 riders....respect!"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUlX4qavDTk

    With comments from others here in KB...

    "impressed"

    "man that guy can handle that bike!"

    "Thought it was funny when he overtook the motorcycle cop though. Good riding."

    "Very skillful riding"

    "Awesome riding."

    "He must know that bike is gonna react so well."

    "All I can say is BALLLLLLLLLLLLS"

    "this guy got some mad skills!"

    "Crazy but that chick sure can ride!!!"

    "He does have balls alright!"
    Perhaps you're reading too much into this dipshit? One of those comments belongs to me, but it was merely a set-up for my second comment which was intended as a joke (fun for me and enjoyment for others with a sense of humour).

    This is a forum and the written word is not always a true reflection of one’s attitude or personal view!

    For the record, I watched that ZX9R video in disbelief. I neither think it was cool nor clever and wondered if the rider was actually alive today. I’ve no doubt he had skill handling a bike, but the mass between his ears had somehow fallen to his crotch. “All balls and no brains” so to speak!

    I don’t have that sort of bike control, have no desire to ride like that, but I do hope I have enough mass between my ears to stay alive and safe!
    Nunquam Non Paratus

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    That video gives me the shits. Particularly the tractor bit.
    And that's the reality of riding on the roads. It isn't that great a problem for people who put a higher priority in their safety and take their riding a bit more seriously over having "fun".

    Being the fastest. Pulling the biggest wheelie. Having the most tortured looking tyres. Having the biggest set of balls in the eyes of your mates in some bullshit macho pissing match, mean jack-shit for road-craft skills.

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