Crappy cornering technique

[jrandom]

Except I disagree with parts of random's definition.

Which parts?

That is, if you can take enough time out of your busy schedule to type a response in detail, of course. I wouldn't want to be a burden, etc.

[Irontusk]

Headbanger got it in one

Call me a noob (go on) but to me it just sounds like the guy went too fast into the turn and had a bit of panic, not commiting to the corner.

Call me a noob again (please) but countersteering still doesn't make sense to me I've seen it in a few videos, but I don't think I'd be able to bring myself to try 'turn in the wrong direction' as I head into a corner..

[SeppoDave]

Tusk

You are doing it anyway, you just might not realise it. Next time you approach a corner, try to take note of your handlebar inputs. You'll be surprised.

[Big Dave]

Which parts?

That is, if you can take enough time out of your busy schedule to type a response in detail, of course. I wouldn't want to be a burden, etc.

No burden old bean - but I could only reiterate what I have already posted and hope it is taken in the intended context.

I'll put in a 'me' context so nobody else says I'm confused.

I either 'push' the bike through the maneuver in a countersteering exercise - or 'pull' it round after me in a conventional off board job.

That is the nub and it is achieved by a concert of actions in either case.

I can however countersteer a motorcycle without touching the handlebars *. That is my point of disagreement.

* - Noobs do not try this. Closed road - professional rider :-)

[jrandom]

I can however countersteer a motorcycle without touching the handlebars. That is my point of disagreement.

Do the bars turn toward the outside of the corner when you steer with weight transfer alone?

I've never really paid much attention.

Gawd, this is now a full-blown Countersteering Thread, innit? I shall depart it now with what little of my sanity remains.

[Big Dave]

Do the bars turn toward the outside of the corner when you steer with weight transfer alone?

I've never really paid much attention.

Gawd, this is now a full-blown Countersteering Thread, innit? I shall depart it now with what little of my sanity remains.

Yes - it seems it's the like aholes and opinions thing.

I would have said they steer where you push them via buttock and foot.

[dipshit]

:In my lifetime theres been many who have shunned the "correct" way to go round corners and made many a successful career in doing so,

No one is saying it isn't a useful technique sometimes, like slow speed U-turns and manoeuvres, or very tight twisty roads and such.

This however isn't what is commonly referred to as 'countersteering'. Confusing the term may lead to some novice pushing their bike down into the corner without leaning over with it and sitting bolt upright instead, when trying out this 'countersteering' they hear everybody talking about on a high-speed corner.

[Pussy]

This is all good banter, but doesn't change the fact that the "biker" that Slofox saw is a tit

[Big Dave]

This is all good banter, but doesn't change the fact that the "biker" that Slofox saw is a tit

He can be used as a bad example.

[Pussy]

He can be used as a bad example.

Fair enough comment, Dave!

[Big Dave]

Fair enough comment, Dave!

I have 20/20 hindsight. Marvelous.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Crusiers suck hahhahahahhaaa a a

[98tls]

No one is saying it isn't a useful technique sometimes, like slow speed U-turns and manoeuvres, or very tight twisty roads and such.

This however isn't what is commonly referred to as 'countersteering'. Confusing the term may lead to some novice pushing their bike down into the corner without leaning over with it and sitting bolt upright instead, when trying out this 'countersteering' they hear everybody talking about on a high-speed corner.

Uh-huh,imagine that someone making a mistakeThe problem here is a "novice" may well end up spending there life reading this pc bullshit and never go ride there bike,typical really lets take one of the last bastions of independence throw in a whole lot of expert opinions based on nothing but there own personal experiances and call it fact.

[Headbanger]

Confusing the term may lead to some novice pushing their bike down into the corner without leaning over with it and sitting bolt upright instead, when trying out this 'countersteering' they hear everybody talking about on a high-speed corner.

Thats my signature move.

[98tls]

Thats my signature move.

Honesty is a wonderful thing,Fear not grasshopper,thankfully i remember posts from the wise and have saved many a magazine article,simply move your left leg 0.5 cm on the left peg eat 3 hard boiled eggs before even looking at your motorcycle and the most important rule of all,have the correct bulb in your tailight,do these simple things and a motorcycle legend you will be.