Crappy cornering technique

[slofox]

Was heading to Auks in the cage last Saturday arvo - round about the drag track at Meremere, when a bike of a certain American make came roaring through the lanes, weaving through the traffic and then proceeded into the next right hander.....he was in the righthand lane.....watched him try to lean through the corner but he was leaning OUT of the corner, not into it....sort of pushing the bike down towards the road but leaning the other way......well he totally lost it, couldn't get round, ended up hitting the anchors, crossing, without control, into the left hand lane and generally buggering up his impression ratio....lucky for him the left lane was clear where he was so no grief ensued......
Anyway, he is not the first rider I have seen try to corner like that....kinda looking like a dirt tracker cept no foot down....anyone else see this happening? Makes you wonder if the licence came out of a weetbix packet........or what...

[awayatc]

Sounds like the way you corner a three wheeled motorbike.....
So he probably only had taken of the training wheels that same day....

[Bend-it]

Yes, I have seen it... kinda like what you do for low speed handling, where you'd turn the handlebars one direction and counter-lean so the bike doesn't drop unceremoniously on its side?

I've seen bikers countersteer with the handlebars, while trying to keep their body straight and so leaning abit opposite to the bike (and done that myself too sometimes out of being lazy to shift my weight).

I haven't come to grief doing it 'coz I'm only lazy on the lazy corners...

Is this what you're talking about?

[Big Dave]

It's called countersteering.

The RRRS course recommends it for low to moderate speed and tight maneuvers.

There is a point of diminishing return where it all turns to custard - eg.

[KiwiRat]

Sounds like that guy found the point of no return, and then went past it to see what was ahead.

Could you hear the sphincter puckering?

[slofox]

Yes, I have seen it... kinda like what you do for low speed handling, where you'd turn the handlebars one direction and counter-lean so the bike doesn't drop unceremoniously on its side?

I've seen bikers countersteer with the handlebars, while trying to keep their body straight and so leaning abit opposite to the bike (and done that myself too sometimes out of being lazy to shift my weight).

I haven't come to grief doing it 'coz I'm only lazy on the lazy corners...

Is this what you're talking about?

Guess so - although I try not to do that at all myself......and this dude was not in a low speed situation either.....

[slofox]

So he probably only had taken of the training wheels that same day....

heheheeeeee

[Rosie]

After practising various different cornering techniques, I've found that leaning the bike into the corner, and leaning away from it is the smoothest and most comfortable way of cornering on my chook chaser.

Different bike geometries require different handling techniques.

[slofox]

Could you hear the sphincter puckering?

I wondered what the TWANGGGGGGGGgggggg noise was.......

[discotex]

It's called countersteering.

That's not what I'd call counter-steering. Counter-steering is how you turn the bars to make the bike lean over not how you position your weight.

I suspect you meant counter-LEANING which you do during low speed maneuvering.

Counter-leaning at high speed will get you in a world of trouble as it reduces your clearance (opposite to hanging off).

Strangely it is usually cruiser riders I spot doing this. Odd as I'd expect they'd want to preserve all available lean angle.... Does help remove chicken strips at lower speeds though if that's important to you.

[Big Dave]

That's not what I'd call counter-steering. Counter-steering is how you turn the bars to make the bike lean over not how you position your weight.

I suspect you meant counter-LEANING which you do during low speed maneuvering.

Counter-leaning at high speed will get you in a world of trouble as it reduces your clearance (opposite to hanging off).

Strangely it is usually cruiser riders I spot doing this. Odd as I'd expect they'd want to preserve all available lean angle.... Does help remove chicken strips at lower speeds though if that's important to you.

I know exactly what I mean thanks - and that ain't it.

[Hitcher]

My cornering lines are impeccible, nay perfect. Which makes me highly qualified to pour scorn and derision upon any other biker I observe who lacks such finely honed skills. Not.

[The Pastor]

Harleys and cruisers do use an opersit lean technique not sure if it works as ive never use it before.

[skidMark]

It is called lean out, it can work used correctly and lets you change line very quickly if need be, i am personallity a lean in countersteer like a bastard person, but on gravel roads its stand up...lean over ther front, and get her sideways.

[vifferman]

Harleys and cruisers do use an opersit lean technique not sure if it works as ive never use it before.

Bollocks.
Like someone else said - if anything they need to hang off on the inside, due to limited cornering clearance. As BD said (I think...), pushing the bike down into the corner works well for slow-speed turns such as carpark manoeuvering, but that's about it.
Something I have seen a lot when following some crusier riders is not keeping their head level and looking through the corners: their whole body is in a straight line through the bike. Not the best technique - most people learn not to do that very early on.