HorsePower

[Slyer]

It's not really clean, it's still full of stuff, it's just more organised that's all. :P

[motorbyclist]

yeah, we can now find tools and most the bikes

[Slyer]

Classic!

[aewilliam]

Ahh! been WAAAAY too long since having to think about this!

Churrr to Squiggles on the reply...

Yes, easily, alot of the racers fix them to full open? or closed, cant remember

How much does a top end kit set you back here in nz?

Chaaahoooo!!! I believe PVs OPEN as the 2T wakes up, so guess they would be fixed to open for racing? I guess the only time it goes below 6K-ish rpm (powerband is GO!!!) is in 1st gear coming off lights, so guess under 6K would be when PVs are closed...ie NOT VERY OFTEN! which equates to i don't really need powervalves...
but more importantly...no need to spend $500 or so all up on a new set of PVs maybe! (esp the desirable billet-centred ones which add ANOTHER $250ish!!!)

Suzuki's full top end kit is just over $600 for the vj22/rs250.
Aprilia's? Allegedly, Aprilia Italy orders from Suzuki Japan, sticks an Aprilia sticker over Suzuki, and ships it to their customer with an markup of around 50%...i.e. Yup...$900ish all up was the quote.

It certainly has been violated. Hopefully I'll have the bike this week!. Why don't you take the bike to Mike? Sounds like the mechanic you are dealing with is daft or needs a baseball bat to get the job done. I prefer the bit where walking in with the baseball bat. BTW who is the mechanic?

Good news to any people who are thinking 'what SHOULDN'T i do?!?! where SHOULDN'T i go!?!?' Frankly my dears, you dont have to give a damn in this case cos the fulla has gone into liquidation...so no risk of getting YOUR pretties garaged up for what adds up to a year or so.

Seems a baseball bat with a big fulla on the pivot end wasnt needed, just a pen with an accountant on the end.

Hey Timati, didja get the bike a couple weeks back hopefully? how has Mike been to your puppy?

summers in the air, and the best thing to add to the sticky humidity is the sweet smell of berry-scented (and yes it was kinda too tempting... FLAVOURED!!!) 100% synthetic 2T smoke!

[aewilliam]

and most importantly of course...
have you got the MOOOOOOAAAAAR POWAAAAAR ye hast been seeking?

[Squiggles]

Churrr to Squiggles on the reply...

You may wish to pm Ixion (the ruler of two strokes) to find out if i am indeed on the mark and if i am, the consequences of doing such things... I've read it in a couple of places but cant verify its right Cant see the harm in it myself but ya never know, it is a two stroke!

[Ixion]

Hocusing the power valve open won't give you any more horsepower. All the power valve does is 'fill in' the torque curve at low(ish) revs (under about 6000 as someone said). Racers will often jam them open, because they don't use low revs,and it's another thing to go wrong and add weight.

For a racer machine, that's all good. For a "ride to work bike and fang in the weekend" bike, it's not so good. The power valve doesn't add horsepower. But it does make the bike a shit load easier to ride in traffic.

Two strokes are the absolute paradigm of the classic conundrum :

Power
Reliability
Useability

Choose any two. You can't ever have all three.

[Squiggles]

Two strokes are the absolute paradigm of the classic conundrum :

Power
Reliability
Useability

Choose any two. You can't ever have all three.

I was truly blessed, had all 3 then moved on, not sure i could ever buy another as it'd be a let down after that special one...

[aewilliam]

Hocusing the power valve open won't give you any more horsepower. All the power valve does is 'fill in' the torque curve at low(ish) revs (under about 6000 as someone said). Racers will often jam them open, because they don't use low revs,and it's another thing to go wrong and add weight.

For a racer machine, that's all good. For a "ride to work bike and fang in the weekend" bike, it's not so good. The power valve doesn't add horsepower. But it does make the bike a shit load easier to ride in traffic.

Two strokes are the absolute paradigm of the classic conundrum :

Power
Reliability
Useability

Choose any two. You can't ever have all three.

Serious? i THOUGHT i had all three!!! or maybe love made me blind...

I aint a fussy bugger and the 6K+ range is what I like about it so what i would say is give usability a kick up the a55...heck thats what my uz125 is for!

or all three in the ER6

NOOOOOW...time for a rebuild, and fang-ination of the RS on a daily basis with no powervalves! got MY vote

oh dear...the likelihood of me selling the RS is getting lesser and lesser...unless whoever buys it off me will be aight with it being powervalveless!

Thanks Ixion!

[Timati]

Hey Timati, didja get the bike a couple weeks back hopefully? how has Mike been to your puppy?

The wait has been long and painful however the good news is the bike's back and boy is she a smooth ride. How's your bike?

[aewilliam]

The wait has been long and painful however the good news is the bike's back and boy is she a smooth ride. How's your bike?

Good to hear - enough to warrant its very own thread i see!
Am sure you are loving hearing the 2T music ringadingdingdinging in your ears/head once again! They are truly fan-freeking-tastic rides when going sweet!

Mine? After much reading of the manual and online, seems like my actuator hasnt been doing its job since ive had the bike pretty much. PVs seem to have been stationary at the mid level (bit of bottom end, decent middle, little top end). Fixed the powervalves to open and now she flies! When she gets "there"...and never backfires/cuts out, and starts 1st/2nd kick usually.
Also cracked open my air filter while I was fiddling. Twas filthy.

What not-working-powervalves + filthy-airfilter indicates is that I spent around a couple hundy $$$ on my 'Service', and all that the bike got was an expenseive garage to sleep in (at least it was in the company of its big momma and poppa Mille and Tuono...)

It looks like Mr Mechanic did sweet FA with it. Good f***ing receivership/liquidation riddance to him. ARGH!

Anyhoos, tis in Gavin's (Mt Edens) hands now. I'm just gonna sit it out and be patient. I'm guessing a rebuild of shock will be seen to, get the powervalves all working or something, and top-end done. He hope by end of this month or just after New Years. WHo knows...but at least theres the ER6

Had a brief fang on a shop floor RS250 at Mt Eden and it kinda scared me for the first couple minutes as was not expecting power from "low" (due to mine having dysfunctional PVs). Hope you will get the same buzz with your brand-new old bike aye!

BTW...IF you wanna spend $$$ on pipes, Arrow pipes like mine sound so frikin oooaaaaarsome compared to the stocks!!! So much more adingdingdingdingding per ring!!!

[Timati]

Good to hear - enough to warrant its very own thread i see!
Am sure you are loving hearing the 2T music ringadingdingdinging in your ears/head once again! They are truly fan-freeking-tastic rides when going sweet!

Mine? After much reading of the manual and online, seems like my actuator hasnt been doing its job since ive had the bike pretty much. PVs seem to have been stationary at the mid level (bit of bottom end, decent middle, little top end). Fixed the powervalves to open and now she flies! When she gets "there"...and never backfires/cuts out, and starts 1st/2nd kick usually.
Also cracked open my air filter while I was fiddling. Twas filthy.

What not-working-powervalves + filthy-airfilter indicates is that I spent around a couple hundy $$$ on my 'Service', and all that the bike got was an expenseive garage to sleep in (at least it was in the company of its big momma and poppa Mille and Tuono...)

It looks like Mr Mechanic did sweet FA with it. Good f***ing receivership/liquidation riddance to him. ARGH!

Anyhoos, tis in Gavin's (Mt Edens) hands now. I'm just gonna sit it out and be patient. I'm guessing a rebuild of shock will be seen to, get the powervalves all working or something, and top-end done. He hope by end of this month or just after New Years. WHo knows...but at least theres the ER6

Had a brief fang on a shop floor RS250 at Mt Eden and it kinda scared me for the first couple minutes as was not expecting power from "low" (due to mine having dysfunctional PVs). Hope you will get the same buzz with your brand-new old bike aye!

BTW...IF you wanna spend $$$ on pipes, Arrow pipes like mine sound so frikin oooaaaaarsome compared to the stocks!!! So much more adingdingdingdingding per ring!!!

Am absolutely loving the sound of my bike and its presence in my garage. Mike did an excellent job and have been taking every opportunity to ride the bike. I was however unable to make the 250CC ride today but wouldn't mind a ride tomorrow. Anyhoo, hopefully you get your bike sorted. Am looking at getting new pipes however probably after the new year. Where did you get yours from?

[aewilliam]

Am absolutely loving the sound of my bike and its presence in my garage. Mike did an excellent job and have been taking every opportunity to ride the bike. I was however unable to make the 250CC ride today but wouldn't mind a ride tomorrow. Anyhoo, hopefully you get your bike sorted. Am looking at getting new pipes however probably after the new year. Where did you get yours from?

Sound IN the garage? i'm a guessing you might be enjoying the smell of 2T fumes in an enclosed space as well

Pipes came with the bike...full Arrow kit, spotted them online...$1.5k worth...score!!!
No use if the PVs aint working to let out the full symphony tho! especially a Movement of the 2T Symphony that is annotated by its composer Mr Arrow in engraved plaque as 'Not for Road use' or something to that effect

Will you be doing weekday evening rides (the SATNR?) or something in weekend? Will we mint to see/hear a fellow RS250-er's pride&joy at full song!