View Poll Results: Where do you position your bike on the road?

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  • LH wheel track

    7 6.14%
  • RH wheel track

    83 72.81%
  • Between the wheel tracks

    9 7.89%
  • All over the road coz I usually ride drunk....

    10 8.77%
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    5 4.39%
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Thread: Position on the road?

  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Weaving about cos you are bored or whatever....all that does is draw attention (the unwanted kind). I'm sure a zealous cop will find some infringement that covers gaily weaving about.
    Don't do it.
    haha, its not illegal!! If its not illegal then do it!! If it makes the fuzz frown, then do a u-ee and go back and do it again!!

    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    Ahhhh yes, the isolated gravel pieces.. [trim] if the wheels just roll off the odd piece, there seems to be no major concern....helps to stay relaxed and not panic too.....
    Yeah that seems to be the way doesnt it. So many things are like that with biking - don't panic and it will be cool. Panic and, um, die.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    If one is bored on a bike, then one needs to pull over, stop and get off. Being bored on a bike suggests that one is not concentrating sufficiently and is likely to be the centrepiece of something hurtie.
    Just go faster ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHATVW View Post
    there's always some dickhead who trys to squeeze past you if you keep left too much
    Or some dickhead who squeezes past on the left forcing you into oncoming traffic, such as it was for me a few weeks back just north of Huntly

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    haha, its not illegal!! If its not illegal then do it!! If it makes the fuzz frown, then do a u-ee and go back and do it again!!
    http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/...y.html#driving There is nothing specific in here. But, like I said, a zealous cop may just find something that fits. Like 'Careless or inconsiderate driving [sect 37]'. Or Failure to stay within lane.
    But don't let that stop you.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Definitely the right wheel track. My father has a very painful story brought about partially by using the left wheel track.

    He was travelling to work a not unreasonable distance behind a car when he passed a side street. The driver waiting to turn right into said side street decided that the space he was occupying was empty and cleaned him out. The front bumper collected his leg and forced it through the tank. The right side of the tank ended up less than an inch from the left. This resulted in a very bad compound fracture and a pulmonary embolism that very nearly killed him.

    Ever since this I've been in the habit of riding in the right wheel track (as I had been anyway) but moving to the left track to pass the side street once I'm reasonably sure the turning car has seen me. This way I've got more time to react if they do try to side swipe me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/...y.html#driving There is nothing specific in here. But, like I said, a zealous cop may just find something that fits. Like 'Careless or inconsiderate driving [sect 37]'. Or Failure to stay within lane.
    But don't let that stop you.
    Never does. It's good to see one of the mentors speaking conservatively though - I'd send my learner son along to you, and I'd tell him to do what you said to do.

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    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Definitely the right wheel track. My father has a very painful story brought about partially by using the left wheel track.

    He was travelling to work a not unreasonable distance behind a car when he passed a side street. The driver waiting to turn right into said side street decided that the space he was occupying was empty and cleaned him out. The front bumper collected his leg and forced it through the tank. The right side of the tank ended up less than an inch from the left. This resulted in a very bad compound fracture and a pulmonary embolism that very nearly killed him.

    Ever since this I've been in the habit of riding in the right wheel track (as I had been anyway) but moving to the left track to pass the side street once I'm reasonably sure the turning car has seen me. This way I've got more time to react if they do try to side swipe me.
    I had exactly the same experience as a noobie rider some forty years ago....but in my case it would not have made a rat's arse of difference which track I was on coz the old fart who ran into me was looking over his shoulder as he turned.
    My lesson was to check the car and driver waiting to turn - something I still do to this day.....in my case the accident was avoidable - if I had been more aware of what I was doing. Nowadays if I see a driver NOT looking at me I am prepared to avoid/evade/whatever - certainly would not do what I did back then and just proceed into the intersection.
    This doesn't always happen of course and cases like your father's are much more in the unavoidable category than was mine. I ended up a little bruised and sore and developed a nasty hole in the side of my right leg where the gear lever stuck into it......but all healed up in the end.
    I like your idea of moving into the left track when you do - I do this as well on multi-lane roads - where possible.....

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    Well I tend to sit in the right-hand wheel track as:

    a) It gives me better visibility for what's happening in front
    b) The driver of the car in front can see me in their right and interior rear view mirrors
    c) I have a better chance of dodging some clown entering the road on my nearside

    That all being said I think it' wise to always prepare to change your spot as new hazards come into play. I wouldn't be sitting on the right if a large ass truck was coming my way...I'd move closer to the centre. I also wouldn't sit on the right on an approach to a right hand corner...you'll get more visibility around the corner and a better chance to dodge approaching tools crossing the centreline by keeping left of centre.

    Most of my riding position is situation dependant but, by and large, if it's just cruising down the road (whether following someone or not) I'll stick to the right as best I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Never does. It's good to see one of the mentors speaking conservatively though - I'd send my learner son along to you, and I'd tell him to do what you said to do.

    Steve
    If you can understand that a sensible approach to riding is a good thing, why would you set such a poor example by behaving like a cock?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Unlike the cock I tried passing for ages on the Taupo road yesterday...finally resorted to taking him and his pillion on an uphill lefthander. I hope my pillion let him know his riding was shite...
    Im in no doubt she did....I can visualise the gestures

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Never does. It's good to see one of the mentors speaking conservatively though - I'd send my learner son along to you, and I'd tell him to do what you said to do.

    Steve
    That could possibly be the smartest thing any father could do for his son Steve, although, there is a female just up the road from you that could a very good job. Children always seem to listen just a little bit harder to others when being instructed on road sense.

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    Most of the time im in the RH wheel track but i ride like im invisable and in a way the my high beam catches the more careless drivers eyes, but yeah be prepared for anything to happen, all people with car licences need to do a on rode biking test so they can become more fu#king aware of us.....
    I want to ride everyday...... Fuck work

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    Nowadays if I see a driver NOT looking at me I am prepared to avoid/evade/whatever - certainly would not do what I did back then and just proceed into the intersection.
    Damn straight. No eye contact = no go, or else you better have a loud exhaust and a scary-bright headlight, and watch for that glance over their shoulder.


    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    If you can understand that a sensible approach to riding is a good thing, why would you set such a poor example by behaving like a cock?
    Because on a bike I AM a cock. I corner fast, split down any gap, needlessly fatt it harrrd and loudly when accelerating, pass cars where I prolly shouldn't, ride close to other riders, bust the speedlimit, and generally anything else that will broaden my grin.

    To me, bikes are for one thing only and thats to have a good time on them. If you are able to persuade some teenager to NOT be an arse on a bike and just be a commuter on it, then GOOD LUCK TO YOU but I don't think you will. Boys and bikes are, well, boys and bikes. I just want to keep his mind tilted towards staying alive while he does it. He is quickly seeing lots and lots of high-end stay-alive type stuff, such as slofox posts above.

    Actually my 14 y/o daughter is the one that worries me, because she knows better than me, tells lies, sneaks things she shouldn't, rolls her eyes when lectured, has no fear (gulp), is totally one with nature, has fantastic agility and balance, aaaand lots of other scary 14 y/o female traits. She will make an awesome racer, but OMG what will happen when my back is turned.

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    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
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    positioning

    I think the question is badly asked... where are you riding? town or country? you will not be getting a lot of the dreaded 'oil' line out on a main road are you now? positioning relates to so many variables that its not worth asking the question, best dealt with by on road training. Parked cars, drives, intersections, road surface hazards, lane dominance, position for best road view on bends etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    I hope my pillion let him know his riding was shite...


    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Im in no doubt she did....I can visualise the gestures

    Them up above kind of gestures do you mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Unlike the cock I tried passing for ages on the Taupo road yesterday...finally resorted to taking him and his pillion on an uphill lefthander. I hope my pillion let him know his riding was shite...


    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Im in no doubt she did....I can visualise the gestures


    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post

    Them up above kind of gestures do you mean?

    No I didn't actually. Something to do with instant acceleration and having to hang on for dear life!
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    I usually sit in around the rh side, but generally sit whereever I can see best and be seen best. Tend to only move around if I can see someone behind me threatening to squeeze past (complete with obvious "I am looking at you in mirrors (or over my shoulder if necessary" gestures when needed). I once read the centre line called the 'suicide track' and for a long time avoided it like the plague because I was certain it was going to be this newbies downfall, but now I rely more on my ability to read the road surface and not get too hung up on it. I do try to stay relatively predictable for any traffic behind me (regardless of how many wheels!) and my weaving is limited to pothole and major road kill squish/stock effluent avoidance.
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