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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    I think you can try all you like with that - I don't think you will get far.

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    The attitude on NZ's roads needs changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    I agree with you completely. I have a Hilux Surf with no seats in the rear. The girls would DEARLY love to fill the back with mattresses and do a trip in there. The answer is no. They look at me like they hate me, and the answer is still no. BUT I will TEACH her how to wheelie.

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    I had a van like that when I was young. But i had to persuade the girls into it. Never clocked up many miles in it.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    There's the rub. It's all fun and games and shits and giggles and everybody is the best driver in the world...

    ...until someone gets hurt.

    the full version to metallica , has alot more impact
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny-_wn9mSfI

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    Quote Originally Posted by dipshit View Post
    Which would suggest we should try and foster an attitude in the younger emerging drivers that using a vehicle on the road should be taken more seriously and isn't just there to clown around on.
    You are correct however there will always be younguns and not so younguns that will always feel the need to "clown around" to some extent...fact.
    Personally I'd like to see places where stunting,drifting etc could be held and even supported by the authorities and maybe raise the penalties for doing any of the above on public roads.
    It's always going to happen...therefore adapting is the better approach IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeback View Post
    the full version to metallica , has alot more impact
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny-_wn9mSfI
    Wow...

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    I fail to see the relevance of the posted video clips.

    Although entitled "The faster the speed the bigegr the mess", I saw nothing in either that suggested that the featured crashes owed anything to excessive speed.

    Two involved crashes at what appeared to be reasonable open road speeds, in which incompetent drivers lost control of their vehicles. I would suggest that for such drivers no speed is safe. However, neither of them were engaged in anything hoonish. The third was aimed at drink driving , and speed was quite irrelevant. The fourth, where a young boy walked out straight in front of a van because he was txting , is rather malevolent. The van was doing nothing wrong, and the boy walked straight in front of him, yet the authors of the video would have us accept that somehow it was the driver's fault.

    Fairer messages would be
    "Don't attempt to drive when you are not competent to do so"
    "Don't drive when pissed"
    "don't txt and walk"
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    The fourth, where a young boy walked out straight in front of a van because he was txting , is rather malevolent. The van was doing nothing wrong, and the boy walked straight in front of him, yet the authors of the video would have us accept that somehow it was the driver's fault.
    I think that, because the driver of the van wasn't visually identified, there isn't the intention to 'blame' them.

    I think the ad is simply trying to ask "Have you left enough leeway for the unexpected?"

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    I think if you step in front of a transit van you deserve to get hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeback View Post
    the full version to metallica , has alot more impact
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny-_wn9mSfI
    What Demontoad said, Wow......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headbanger View Post
    I think if you step in front of a transit van you deserve to get hit.
    I don't necessarily disagree, but...........



    .......it would be nice to think we could all drive (and ride) in a manner that gives everyone else a second chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    Lol, why has this turned into a safety debate? That website is pure marketing for his company 'superchips'... also I think i recognise him as the guy who runs the 'Carver' outfit at Coromandel - funnily enough the website is supported by both of the other two companies... how convenient.
    Agree R6. That website was the biggest most pathetic excuse of shite for wasting my broadband that I have seen for a long time. I see that he proudly displays the Caver "as seen on Top Gear", a show that has the biggest couple of hoons on TV. Maybe he doesn't think so because they are not young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeback View Post
    the full version to metallica , has alot more impact
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny-_wn9mSfI
    Their ads are so much more effective than ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I fail to see the relevance of the posted video clips.

    Although entitled "The faster the speed the bigegr the mess", I saw nothing in either that suggested that the featured crashes owed anything to excessive speed.
    I actually think the first one I posted is very relevant to the problems of young drivers.

    They tend to have a much higher opinion of their own driving skills than they actually have. They do gun it down the street thinking they are Michael Schumacher. Add to their overconfidence a feeling of invincibility and being ten foot tall and bullet-proof. Yet they do not have the experience or level headedness that is needed. Overreacting to situations is one of the major reasons younger drivers lose control. Just like in that vid.

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    OI speeding never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary thats the killer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    .......it would be nice to think we could all drive (and ride) in a manner that gives everyone else a second chance.
    The problem with that is, then everyone expects it and then its YOUR FAULT that you didn't come through for them when THEY fuck up, because you didn't give them the extra leeway.

    Life cant, and doesnt, work like this, or else we end up descending into arguments like "why was I so near the centerline in my lane when you hit me head-on" when it was you who crossed the centreline, not me. It doesnt work.

    If you really want to promote personal responsibility you can't start assuming someone elses responsibilities, because to be fair - they would have to start taking over yours. We are all better served to just make sure we are personally ok.

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