Crash scenes. What to do.

[Ixion]

DPex, after reading this thread... more accurately, after reading the first post... I have decided to take up prayer in the hope that if EVER I have the misfortune to be in an accident, you (or anyone who has taken your post as gospel) are several hundred kilometres away with no means of transport.

As a currently practicing Paramedic I would urge anyone wjith the inclination, who hasnt already done so, to investigate doing a first aid course through a reputable trainer.

There are however some good points raised muddled in with the rest of this garbage... Mikkels is one such post.

I can add that one of the largest hurdles we as Emergency Personnell face in situations like this is 'scene location' especially when its in a sei rural / rural area with fewer landmarks... if your the one to make the call please try to be as precise as possible - maybe someone on the scene is a local who knows the areas road names and can identify to our call centres exactly where the accident is at.

Now that GPS receivers are common, can emergency services use a geo code for location?

[The Pastor]

also note, if a biker has come off and has minor injurys (i.e, hes not going to die) DO NOT call the ambo. The police get notifed and you have a high chance of getting a ticket as well. If you can get the bike off the road, clean up any broken glass plastic etc on the road. talk to any other parties involved give them your full details and say my insurance will take care of this (its not admitting liablity) then get down to an A&E.

The only thing cops are good for at accidents are tickets.

Of cource if the accident is not the bikers fault, call the cops asap.

[<Rhino>]

I have to agree with Speedie and Griffin here. Working in the field, the biggest problem is bystanders who watched every episode of ER and now think they are a doctor and finding the location in the first place. Saying your down a long road surrounded by paddocks is not going to make it any easier!

Please read this thread with due care and an open mind, most of it is pure BS and to be honest is quite harmful. For us who see this kind of trauma on a regular basis BS like this is just a pain in the arse and usually comes from people with over active imaginations that have never even been to a fatal let alone have the experience or qualification to give notes on the topic!

If you are genuinely concerned then go and do a course, however be aware that dealing with majour trauma and death is not for everyone, if you do come across somthing and you cant deal with it you dont have to and no one will think any less of you for not.

[Griffin]

Now that GPS receivers are common, can emergency services use a geo code for location?

To be honest Im not sure, but I can find out. The dispatchers send us to a location giving us a physical address and in the case of rural areas, fire numbers or dominant landmarks as detailed by the caller. We dont have a GPS in the Ambulance to use as an address locating tool (unless an individual AO purchases his/her own).

Our Ambulances (Wellington Free Ambulance) are all tracked by GPS so that Comms can see where we are in relation to jobs etc and its possible that appropriate geo codes may be of some help... I will find out and get back to you.

[dpex]

How many live to tell the tale? And when they do, how many of them will spend the rest of their lives sipping steak and eggs through a straw and having someone else wipe their bum? Fuck that!

Nar. On the highway we ride as Cerberus laughs at our puny belief in our mortality. We are, after all, on two wheels with zero protection....although I have been thinking about fitting myself out with a safety belt....

Believe in fate, destiny, luck, bad luck....believe what you wish, but remember, always, the Katmans of this world are always the most surprised when there anal retentive riding leads them into a head-on with a big yellow truck. There last thoughts are, 'I isn't my fault!' Squish.

Shit happens. You either get out of bed and go hard for the day, or you stay there, in bed, in fear, till you rot away.

Personally, I would way prefer to have some on-to-it guy or girl do whatever he/she thought might be the ticket. You know, hack at my throat, stuff in a bit of brake hose, let me breathe long enough to confess my sins till the darkness arrived....than be surrounded by brain-dumps chirruping, 'What do we do now!?' idiots.

Seems to me there are four categories of bikers. a) those who fear the wall. b) those who ride along the wall. c) those who hit the wall and their last thought is, "Bugger"! d) those who don't give a fuck for the wall.

But the sad thing is, those who fear the wall are no less invited to oblivion than those who don't give a fuck.

Ergo. Shit happens. "Better to burn out, than fade away. Yeah, yeah, Hey, hey."

[Katman]

Believe in fate, destiny, luck, bad luck....believe what you wish, but remember, always, the Katmans of this world are always the most surprised when there anal retentive riding leads them into a head-on with a big yellow truck. There last thoughts are, 'I isn't my fault!' Squish.

For the time being I'll just believe in myself.

[Hitcher]

This thread has been really useful. Mrs H was a bit quiet in bed the other morning, so I successfully performed an emergency tracheotomy which perked her up a treat.

[James Deuce]

Believe in fate, destiny, luck, bad luck....believe what you wish, but remember, always, the Katmans of this world are always the most surprised when there anal retentive riding leads them into a head-on with a big yellow truck. There last thoughts are, 'I isn't my fault!' Squish.

I think you'll find the Katmans and the James Deuces are the LAST people who's last thought would be what you suggest.

[kiwi cowboy]

There could be a race to see who gets home first to claim the gratification of being the one to 'break the news'.

By the time you have your helmit on and bike started someone would have allready got onto there new mobile phone thingy and posted it "RACE OVER"

[Griffin]

Seems to me there are four categories of bikers. a) those who fear the wall. b) those who ride along the wall. c) those who hit the wall and their last thought is, "Bugger"! d) those who don't give a fuck for the wall.

riiiiight, what a load of

[kiwi cowboy]

Seems to be heaps of love being extended to Katman on this one!
Bit like the axe that all topdressing planes have in the cockpit... they reckon it's there to help cut the pilot out of the wreckage in the event of an accident... more like to bash the pilot on the head to put him out of his misery

Yer but the hole you had to hack in the cockpit with something else to get to the axe [you no were im going with this]

[Mikkel]

I can sleep through fucking anything.

I hope your wife doesn't find out

[James Deuce]

She probably already has. Women know everything.

[Mikkel]

She probably already has. Women know everything.

Hmmm, they would fit in well on KB then

[Hitcher]

Hmmm, they would fit in well on KB then

You misunderstand. There is a quantum difference between knowing everything and having an opinion on everything. The inimitable Mrs Deuce clearly falls into the former grouping. Me and most other KB contributors fall into the latter. The Mrs Deuces of this world also have way too much sense than to waste their lives sparring with mental dolts. They have much we could learn from in that regard.