Tyre kickers and test rides

**mynameis** · 18th October 2008, 12:04

Right how do you deal with this? Say if your insurance has expired and you're not renewing or if it does not cover anyone else but you.

How do you sort the genuine out from the test pilots and deal with them? You'd get a general feeling about how genuine someone is about buying your machine.

But what you don't want to do is put off genuine buyers by not giving them a test ride or having too many terms and conditions like, proof of funds or getting them to sign a note ect.

Again there are some genuine ones who will not have full and would be looking at upgrading so do you just take a little bit of risk and let them?

**cs363** · 18th October 2008, 12:12

Originally Posted by mynameis

Right how do you deal with this? Say if your insurance has expired and you're not renewing or if it does not cover anyone else but you.

How do you sort the genuine out from the test pilots and deal with them? You'd get a general feeling about how genuine someone is about buying your machine.

But what you don't want to do is put off genuine buyers by not giving them a test ride or having too many terms and conditions like, proof of funds or getting them to sign a note ect.

Again there are some genuine ones who will not have full and would be looking at upgrading so do you just take a little bit of risk and let them?

Personally I would re-insure the bike and do it on a pay by the month basis. That way you are covered for all eventualities and when the bike is sold you can just cancel the insurance. Private sale is a high risk for theft and accident damage.

**mynameis** · 18th October 2008, 12:14

Originally Posted by cs363

Personally I would re-insure the bike and do it on a pay by the month basis. That way you are covered for all eventualities and when the bike is sold you can just cancel the insurance. Private sale is a high risk for theft and accident damage.

Yeah what about the guys on restricted licence who are also genuine buyers?

And what if your insurance company DOES NOT cover anyone else but you.

**CookMySock** · 18th October 2008, 12:15

No one rides or drives anything of mine, unless I have the keys to something of theirs thats more expensive in my hot hand. No exceptions. None.

Steve

**Headbanger** · 18th October 2008, 12:16

Condition of a test ride is you get to hold their money. If they crash her then the deal is done. Personally I'd do it just to make sure they come back with the bike.

**AllanB** · 18th October 2008, 12:17

What he said.

Either way I'd ask for their licence and if you are allowing them to ride alone keep it with you - if they get pulled over they can always escort the cop back to yours.....

Or just tell them you'll take them for a spin on the back and that you are happy for any bike shop of their choice to look it over at their expense. If they are on a restricted NO solo ride - insurance will not cover you as they are not legally allowed to ride it.

Or trade it in on a nice new HONDA.

**cs363** · 18th October 2008, 12:18

Originally Posted by mynameis

Yeah what about the guys on restricted licence who are also genuine buyers?

'If' they are genuine buyers but on a restricted licence then I would think that the onus is on them to supply a fully licenced test rider.

**Wenier** · 18th October 2008, 12:18

I have them also sign a letter saying any damage, fines, etc will be paid by them while they are riding the bike. It also has their driver licence number recorded on it so they cant hide. And if they cant handle that then they can bugger off.

**mynameis** · 18th October 2008, 12:19

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

No one rides or drives anything of mine, unless I have the keys to something of theirs thats more expensive in my hot hand. No exceptions. None.

Steve

But then again you're just a dangerous Bastard aye

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Condition of a test ride is you get to hold their money. If they crash her then the deal is done. Personally I'd do it just to make sure they come back with the bike.

So if you're selling a 15 g machine you ask them to get 15g cash and you hold it .... eeheem.

**AllanB** · 18th October 2008, 12:20

Mind you if she looks like your avatar image let her ride anything.....

**cs363** · 18th October 2008, 12:21

Originally Posted by Wenier

I have them also sign a letter saying any damage, fines, etc will be paid by them while they are riding the bike. It also has their driver licence number recorded on it so they cant hide. And if they cant handle that then they can bugger off.

All good providing that the info they give you is genuine and the licence is not forged. May sound far fetched to some of you, but the scum that steal bikes and cars will stop at nothing. As most everyone knows now NZ drivers licences are very easy to forge. Promises to pay etc are not worth the paper they are written on IMO, as at the very least you have to go through the painful process of actually getting them to pay etc.
Work on the worse case scenario and plan for it - that way you will not get any unpleasant surprises or experiences.

**cs363** · 18th October 2008, 12:22

Originally Posted by AllanB

Or trade it in on a nice new HONDA.

Or....do that!

**FROSTY:Me** · 18th October 2008, 12:29

Doesn't work for the private guy but I never let them ride a bike without me being with them on another bike.
As for restricted licence holders dude that one is down to you.
But think worst case senario. He stacks the bike so its fucked --and kills himself -sorry to be blunt but thats worst case

**Little Miss Trouble** · 18th October 2008, 12:33

Originally Posted by cs363

'If' they are genuine buyers but on a restricted licence then I would think that the onus is on them to supply a fully licenced test rider.

Yeah I would think that is pretty standard, it sucks big time to be so close yet so far, especially when your watching good deals slip away three weeks too soon but anyone who is in this situation should understand that you obviously can't allow them to test ride it themselves.

If the test riders have current bike insurance they may very well be covered under that, the wording on my policy is something like "insured to ride this motorcycle or any other where you have been given permission by the owner" (within license conditions if any apply)

**mynameis** · 18th October 2008, 12:33

Originally Posted by Wenier

I have them also sign a letter saying any damage, fines, etc will be paid by them while they are riding the bike. It also has their driver licence number recorded on it so they cant hide. And if they cant handle that then they can bugger off.

Originally Posted by cs363

All good providing that the info they give you is genuine and the licence is not forged. May sound far fetched to some of you, but the scum that steal bikes and cars will stop at nothing. As most everyone knows now NZ drivers licences are very easy to forge. Promises to pay etc are not worth the paper they are written on IMO, as at the very least you have to go through the painful process of actually getting them to pay etc.
Work on the worse case scenario and plan for it - that way you will not get any unpleasant surprises or experiences.

What he said at the end of the day you can get them to sign anything you want and show you whatever, licence ect..ect. But if they take you bike out and write it off then it's going to be a case of $10 per week for the next few years.

So you say work on the worst case scenario and plan for it? How would you deal with it ???

Originally Posted by AllanB

Mind you if she looks like your avatar image let her ride anything.....

She does