Chang Jiang 750

[Flip]

Yes tried to OK that friendship thing don't know if I pushed the right buttons though. Check with CJ750 for my email details if you like.

You did it right. You can look at my pics now.

Have just started a CJ group if anybody is interested.

[Clay]

Flip how do I find the CJ group, I'm new here, have a CJ and keen to meet up with others

[Bonez]

Flip how do I find the CJ group, I'm new here, have a CJ and keen to meet up with others

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php

Have a look under your profile. Should be an option to join groups.

[popelli]

Almost, but you're confusing two models there -- the R71 and the R72. The R71 (old 1930s design) the Germans gave willingly to the Soviets just prior to the war when they were still `buddies' -- gave it willingly because they already had the much better R72 almost done, which they were building because they felt the R71 was old hat and not quite up for Blitzkrieg etc. The Soviet version of the R71 was used for a while, then it got given to the Chinese as part of some communism-brotherhood thing they had, in the mid-late-50s.

Meanwhile, after WWII finished, that's when the Soviets pissed off with the R72, which turned into the Ural and those current Russian sidecar outfits. So the Ural and the CJ750s are from two different models -- very closely related though. Ural is the one to have, if you're fighting WWII I suppose.

there are a few more twists in this story as well at some time around 41/42 the yanks and the russians were quiote friendly and exchanged blueprints, the results of which are the Harley Davidson XA horizontally opposed shaft drive army bike which was a copy of the R71 complete with plunger rear suspension and some blatent copies of harley 45's being made in Russia

rummours are that Harley sold the dies etc for the XA to china after the war

and not only did BSA copy the DKW two stroke, so did harley and its from this model that the sportster tank as its now known was first unveiled to the public


one of my clients has just acquired a dkw two stroke complete with an auto union (read audi) badge on the rear guard

[Flip]

These were taken by Tranzalper on the Christchurch Wednesday night ride.

We went over the port leve to little river road.

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=d&so...,0.438766&z=11

[Clay]

Thanks Flip I joined the CJ group. I like the look of your bike, what's its history? Any idea how many CJ's in the country?

[Flip]

I personally know of 8 at the moment. 9 when my silver one turns up. So I would say that there is about 20 or so around.

There was one I saw in Wellington at the Bikehoey, was that yours?

There is a black one around that was brought into the country with no papers so it would be very difficult to register.

I have the original civilian papers for mine but because I can't read Mandarin I have no idea what they say. All I can say is its side valve 24hp, made in the late 60's and was a army bike.

[Clay]

There was a black one on TM a month or so ago, he imported it a couple of years ago but never vinned or regd it. Maybe he's got no paper work?

[avgas]

What are they worth in China.
I *apparently* have an empty garage in Shanghai.
Was going to get one of these.....but a CJ sounds better.

[Clay]

They're supposed to be worth scrap value in China but foreigners pay good money for them $US 2 - 3000 depending on what's been done to them. I think they're banned in Shanghai and Beijing they have a 1997 rule which only gives them 10 years registration at which point they should be scrapped. Apparently local registration is worth more than the bike.

From reading different websites there's lots of them on the road with fake plates and illegal registration.