Anyone with a bit of experience want to help a noob shop? :P

[Waylander]

I'm honestly not that interested in speed. I want something big for touring. If we move back to the states, I want to be able to have a nice leisurely ride around the country. And quite possibly with a friend of mine on the back. You can get 250ccs that are fast and powerfull, sure. But a 250 that'll take two passengers, comfortably, over a long distance? I can't quite afford a Goldwing, otherwise I would pick one of them. >.> Anyway, I appreciate all the constructive criticism, and I will take it into consideration.

Back to the states?? You mean im not the only ex-american oin this site? oh thank the gods!!! Anyway, what part of the states did you live in before?

[dhunt]

I'm honestly not that interested in speed. I want something big for touring. If we move back to the states, I want to be able to have a nice leisurely ride around the country. And quite possibly with a friend of mine on the back. You can get 250ccs that are fast and powerfull, sure. But a 250 that'll take two passengers, comfortably, over a long distance? I can't quite afford a Goldwing, otherwise I would pick one of them. >.> Anyway, I appreciate all the constructive criticism, and I will take it into consideration.

Just curious what do your parents think??? Have you talked to them about this license dilema? Wouldn't they be more keen in keeping you alive and kicking on a smaller bike for the time being and help you upgrade at a later state when you are ready to move on?? I'm betting this will be the cheaper option in terms of the you and the bike staying out of "hospital". Have you got any experience at all on bikes of any discription????

[mouldy]

ok dude vtrs are ok because the are not the last word in horsepwer easy to ride and pussycats down low and they are hondas, if you need riding gear head over to Barrys Point Rd in Takapuna and check out the new Cycletreads and also Cyclespot for vtrs.

[Fenix]

Back to the states?? You mean im not the only ex-american oin this site? oh thank the gods!!! Anyway, what part of the states did you live in before?

I'm not actually *from* the states, but I went over there a while. :P I'm a "Naturalised" American Citizen (dual! American and Kiwi at the same time. ) because mum's american and she happened to take us to the consulate at the right time and they were pushing to offer dual citizenship for some reason. So yeah, I fly on a US passport. Only cause it looks cooler. >.> I have family over in Tombstone, AZ. Nanna's getting old, so mum's thinking about moving to Arizona some time in the next few years. And, well, hot isn't my thing, so I'd probably split for more sympathetic climates. And snow... And snowboarding...

[Waylander]

I'm not actually *from* the states, but I went over there a while. :P I'm a "Naturalised" American Citizen (dual! American and Kiwi at the same time. ) because mum's american and she happened to take us to the consulate at the right time and they were pushing to offer dual citizenship for some reason. So yeah, I fly on a US passport. Only cause it looks cooler. >.> I have family over in Tombstone, AZ. Nanna's getting old, so mum's thinking about moving to Arizona some time in the next few years. And, well, hot isn't my thing, so I'd probably split for more sympathetic climates. And snow... And snowboarding...

Northern ariozona isnt bad, not to many univeristies up that way though, might try colorado or utah (beware the mormons PT) some good ones there with plenty of moutain roads for a bike and snowboarding ect.ect.

[Fenix]

My Dad is too busy on his yacht to care about anything I do. :P But my mum is ok with me getting a thou, she thinks I'm responsible enough to not do anything idiotic on it. I've had a bit of experience on quads and farm bikes, a long while back, but nothing recent. I figure if I very slowly start from the start on a big bike, I won't be used to a 250 and take a corner faster than I expect or something, because I'll be used to a thou.

Re:Mouldy, yes, that's also what I've read. The reviews I read kept on calling it "tame" and "boring". Sounds exactly what I want.

As for where in the US, the idea goes "Front tyre on road, rear tyre on road, accelerate, don't stop for anything but gas, food and sleep untill I've found somewhere I like". We've only seen the western states, a bit of Canada and Alaska so far, so I've still ot 20-odd states to visit.

[Waylander]

If your looking for a good size bike thats good for a nice cruise around the country you might think about a yamaha roadstar, Fairly decent bikes those if a bit on the heavy side, or maybe a honda shadow (dont know what the NZ name is) is another good one thats not as heavy as the roadstar.

[GixerBoy]

Re:Mouldy, yes, that's also what I've read. The reviews I read kept on calling it "tame" and "boring". Sounds exactly what I want.


I am quite new to riding about 2-3 years and had no pryor experience.I now ride a Gixxer thou but i started out on a fxr150 which was a cool bike to learn on,then went to a 250 for something bigger and then a gixxer 7fiddy. Each bike i learnt heaps on and if i had gone straight to my thou i would have dropped it or hit something by now. They say tame and boring but these are guys who have ridden alsorts of bikes and have been riding for years, to a new rider they would be very impressive.
There are alot of skills to learn on bikes so it is better to start with something that is a bit easier to control.
Have fun and take care with what ever bike you get

[jrandom]

Anyone who calls a VTR1000 tame and boring is fulla shit, or has just stepped off a GSXR1000 or 10R.

And sorry, Fenix, but you ain't got a clue what you're talking about if you want to buy one to 'tour around on'.

I'm starting to think that you're just a spoiled idiot who's absorbed too much nonsense from the American bike forums.

[XTC]

Anyone who calls a VTR1000 tame and boring is fulla shit, or has just stepped off a GSXR1000 or 10R.

And sorry, Fenix, but you ain't got a clue what you're talking about if you want to buy one to 'tour around on'.

I'm starting to think that you're just a spoiled idiot who's absorbed too much nonsense from the American bike forums.

Jeez bro don't hold back.....
Let him have it!!!

[Waylander]

Anyone who calls a VTR1000 tame and boring is fulla shit, or has just stepped off a GSXR1000 or 10R.

And sorry, Fenix, but you ain't got a clue what you're talking about if you want to buy one to 'tour around on'.

I'm starting to think that you're just a spoiled idiot who's absorbed too much nonsense from the American bike forums.

umm............ ok whatever.

[Fenix]

Anyone who calls a VTR1000 tame and boring is fulla shit, or has just stepped off a GSXR1000 or 10R.

And sorry, Fenix, but you ain't got a clue what you're talking about if you want to buy one to 'tour around on'.

I'm starting to think that you're just a spoiled idiot who's absorbed too much nonsense from the American bike forums.

Tame and boring compared to other big twins, i.e. the TL1000. And this isn't a VTR1000R model either. Also, the VTR1000 is meant to be very comfortable and powerfull enough to carry two people with plenty of grunt to spare. It also drinks gas like water, but that's not really an issue.

I'm starting to wonder if your mother and sister are the same person. -.- Seriously, I haven't even read an American forum. I am spoilt. I don't think I'm an idiot. And I think you need a serious attitude adjustment. Thanks for the help. Not. :eyepoke:


Thank you some for the constructive criticism, and for others "If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all" could come in very handy for you.

I didn't actually intend to start shit with anyone, and I appologise, I guess I just got a few people's soft spots. Meh.

[Fenix]

I think I'll keep out of this from now on. If a mod happens to look at what is rapidly becoming a flame war, would they please do the honours and lock or delete it? To those that offered help, thank you very much for your offers; to those that offered usefull information, thank you very much; to those that offered what could only be described as flame, go burn someone who cares. Anyway, I'll get in touch with the people who offered their help and make some arangements, but at this rate probably not this weekend. With all the reasonable comments about looking at a lower powered bike, I'm going to re-check my past 2 months of research to see if I can find a compromise. *sigh* Oh well.

[loosebruce]

Tame and boring compared to other big twins, i.e. the TL1000.

Fucken aye

Yeah ya have seemed to hit a few soft spots, wouldn't worry too much not that you are, there's a lot worse than you out there thats for sure .
Seems you are thinking the right way though, you're not an idiot by any means.

Just a Q, are you pretty set on a VTR? Or are you open to ideas on other suitable bikes that meet your requirments (sp)? Say do you want a sport bike or would ya look at a cruiser. going by you saying eh you would like a Gol#$%^g. You'd find a good cruiser style bike for around the same money and it wouldn't be chewing up tyres/gas/chains etc as bad as a more sports orientated bike, it'd be a sheetload more comfy for you and a passenger over distance and be alot more user friendly to ride with your experience.
Let me know man, and i'll even have a look around for you and let you know what i come up with, hell i just sit at home all day at the moment so it'll give me something to do.

[loosebruce]

I think I'll keep out of this from now on. If a mod happens to look at what is rapidly becoming a flame war, would they please do the honours and lock or delete it?

BTW this aint no flame war bro, oh no, no where near, start slagging off the police is a good place to start, or join in on the Public Image of NZ Police thread, batter up