Lawyer to appeal new exhaust regs

**gav** · 2nd February 2005, 22:30

Originally Posted by Hitcher

And what about exhaust brakes??

Havent seen one listed for a CBR600 yet, but I'll keep looking......

**gav** · 2nd February 2005, 22:32

But seriously, I haven't really followed this, are you likely to be tested roadside for this? Or is it a WOF requirement? Can I just fit standard muffler for WOF then refit carbon noise monster when I get home?

**sAsLEX** · 3rd February 2005, 08:20

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

And to add to this Tim Barnett has begun work on his private members bill to ban modified exhaust altogether.

so no more buying a cheap *quite* muffler from midas or whoever the fuck does exhaust as these are not OEM. Everyone would have to go back to buying OEM parts at some extravegant price. Example OEM toyota pipe was 1200 but local built one was 100. This will see the end of a lot of small businesses i think

**dhunt** · 3rd February 2005, 08:40

I sought of agree to part of what he's going for, I used to live in a flat where my room would rattle when every some tin can went past which was really annoying - I have since moved.

Would not a better law to inforce be that the noise level has to be kept below xx db in residental areas after say 11 pm. That I would be more happy with.

**Lou Girardin** · 3rd February 2005, 08:58

Originally Posted by Honda

Abolosh the legal aid system and the number of filthy lawyers will decline and then shite like this might not happen

A/ He won't be getting legal aid for his own litigation.
B/ I guess you don't get woken by barely muffled boy racers shit-boxes much, do you?
C/ If you are ever unfortunate enough to face serious charges, you won't be consulting a 'filthy lawyer', will you?

PS Sleepless Sunday morn about 4.00AM, some shit box getting wound right out, followed by the howl of tyres, rapidly followed by CRUNCH.
Music to my ears.

**Motu** · 3rd February 2005, 09:16

OE systems for cars in NZ are made here by Southwards,and built up one off systems for imports are made using these same components,they also produce,source and supply performance systems that comply - I really think the finger should be pointed at the likes of Repco where you can buy an illeagal exhaust system over the counter,same goes for most of the total crap found on boi racer cars,if these pricks didn't sell stuff that didn't comply in the first place we wouldn't have this proliferation of crap we have now.

**R1** · 3rd February 2005, 09:51

Originally Posted by Motu

OE systems for cars in NZ are made here by Southwards,and built up one off systems for imports are made using these same components,they also produce,source and supply performance systems that comply - I really think the finger should be pointed at the likes of Repco where you can buy an illeagal exhaust system over the counter,same goes for most of the total crap found on boi racer cars,if these pricks didn't sell stuff that didn't comply in the first place we wouldn't have this proliferation of crap we have now.

would this include bike shops that sell yoshi's, over's, two bro's, arrows??......to me it's all how the cage/bike is driven/riden...if its tested to comply at a set DB and speed then the coppers can issue tickets for noise and suck driving....for example my bike when riden at normal suburban speeds is quiet, but if i decide to give it the gas...its over 100db...so if it was tested to 80 db at 55kph it would comply...then its up to me to keep it quiet, and i keep my nice stainless Yoshi

**pete376403** · 3rd February 2005, 10:16

My brother in law is a fitter/turner at Southwards. He says when these regs were first proposed, Mitsubishi Motors told them that they could not certify that the Southwards exhaust systems would meet the same standards as the original Mitsi part (in other words, Southwards pipes would no longer be legal, people would just have to buy from Mitsi Motors, So sorry). Don't know if that went away or not. So it's not just the smaller shops that would suffer.
Another thing worth noting is that not much of the overall noise comes from the exhaust. Late model Falcons make more noise coming towards the sound level meter than going away from it (From B-I-L again, referring to Southwards testing of ORIGINAL exhaust systems to see how their own pipes measured up)
In my own experience (just had my hearing restored via a cochlear implant) tyres (especially 4WD off-roader type tyres on coarse chip) is a huge part of the noise package

**Motu** · 3rd February 2005, 10:27

Originally Posted by R1AaronKDX

would this include bike shops that sell yoshi's, over's, two bro's, arrows??......

You might find the big name brands are built to a standard,they meet some certain criteria,but maybe not sound - if they don't comply with noise levels you may find a discrete ''not for road use'' label somewhere.Kinda like the 100w H4 bulbs,you can buy them anywhere,but they are illeagal and it says so on the packet...who cares eh?

**PSYCHO** · 3rd February 2005, 10:53

Some of the loudest vehicles on the road are the big trucks, are they gonna "do" them? I doubt it.

Would a cop pull over 20 Harleys and ticket them? I doubt it (unfortunately)

This is such bullshit.

**R1** · 3rd February 2005, 10:57

[QUOTE=Motu]You might find the big name brands are built to a standard,they meet some certain criteria,but maybe not sound - if they don't comply with noise levels you may find a discrete ''not for road use'' label somewhere.Kinda like the 100w H4 bulbs,you can buy them anywhere,but they are illeagal and it says so on the packet...who cares eh?[/QUOTE]

For sure....handy havn mates that do wof's

**Blakamin** · 3rd February 2005, 11:33

Anyone comin on Hitcher's ride tonight can check out my "stock" Duc muffler... fucken aint gunna change it!!!

**vifferman** · 3rd February 2005, 11:37

And I'm not going to change my Satantune for another zorst. If it complies with Aussie regs (I can get the sticker for it), it should be fine here.

**Coldkiwi** · 3rd February 2005, 12:14

oh no. Just when we thought we'd seen the last of this slop from idiots in power. We should make a distinction between good lawyers and flithy lawyers however.

Good lawyers are moral people who are there to help people get through the legal system (and yes, make a buck like the rest of us) but are not out with an axe to grind.
Flithy lawyers/MP's (I knew there was another reason I didn't like Tim Barnett) are out there to make a ruckus and generate an 'ambulance industry' for their own glorification and the padding of their wallet. Flithy lawyers/MP's most annoy me cause they seem to have their head in the sand about what their actions do to other people not in their immediate vicinity - in a word SELFISH.