Why I won't be voting for the Green Party

[Finn]

Another rightwinger reveals his commitment to democracy

Democracy? What percentage of voters didn't vote for Liabour last election?

[MisterD]

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So you are on one hand ridiculing his post for using "emotive language, that along with insults and scare tactics" and then spout the same crap back. Obviously you can't construct a sound argument of any sorts so you have to lower yourself to personal insults and outrageous comments that are way off the mark.

Then you go on to say a whole heap of other stuff that is just wrong. Dismantling of Kiwisaver?? No, well if they want more than one term in gvnt that is. Privatisation?? Same answer again. Voucher system in schools?? Just a way to decrease the number of bureaucrats that manage the schooling system and finally allow schools to be up front about the real cost of attending them. Slashing of health and social services?? Please provide a link to that item of policy.

I'm all for a debate using non offensive language, I may even be able to see your point and why you would vote Labour but you need to grow up first.

I would suggest that you go back and read this thread (and the myriad of others like it) properly to see where the outrageous comments and abuse originate from, but I suspect that you'll see only what suits you anyway so that would be a waste of time.

One needs only to have a think back to the 90s and take one look at the dead wood that would form a National cabinet to gain some vision of what that shower have lined up. The watered down comments about incremental change and outright ommission in terms of policy beyond TAX CUTS, TAX CUTS and LAW AND ORDER, LAW AND ORDER demonstrate just how robust and popular their agenda is.

Key's other favourite subject - THE ECONOMY shows the success of a free-market and deregulation. Incidently, I found it interesting how in the U.S and British goverments so suddenly though that State intervention was essential.

Why won't the greedy goverment stop blindly accumulating a huge surplus at the expense of hard working New Zealanders? Hmmm - I'm sure massive borrowing and tax cuts would have been just the thing for times like these...and running THE ECONOMY is supposed to be Key's strong point. Fiscal responsibilty? Give me a break

Lastly, how could you conclude from my comments that I would be voting Pepsi Labour over Coke National...as Renegade Masty says: "A vote for the greens is a vote for communism" They will get two from me

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Purile...but probably speaks volumes. Rightists don't actually like democracy and rights - They only give it lip service.

[Rosie]

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Ban the kittens, they are only going to grow up and eat native birds.

[MisterD]

Purile...but probably speaks volumes. Rightists don't actually like democracy and rights - They only give it lip service.

Once again proving the truism: If one wants to know what the Left are doing, look at what they are accusing the Right of.

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Once again proving the truism: If one wants to know what the Left are doing, look at what they are accusing the Right of.

Have you heard any complaints about the particpation of (in degrees of rabid rightishness) Act, National, United Future, NZ First, Labour etc in preceeding governments from Lefties?

It ain't an empty accusation - you guys just don't believe in democracy: All through this thread there's teeth-nashing about the (minimal) influence of minor parties, the Greens being only one of these.

[MisterD]

Have you heard any complaints about the particpation of (in degrees of rabid rightishness) Act, National, United Future, NZ First, Labour etc in preceeding governments from Lefties?

No, but we've seen the EFA shut down campaigning by any but political parties and trade unions, Liarbour and the Greens squeal about "big business" influence buying elections whilst all along they are rorting the public purse and getting double-bubble from Union funds.

BTW Jim Anderton, Act, UF actually manage to win electorate seats - they are accountable. The same cannot be said for Greens and Winston First.

It ain't an empty accusation - you guys just don't believe in democracy: All through this thread there's teeth-nashing about the (minimal) influence of minor parties, the Greens being only one of these.

Yeah minimal influence...that's why a proven crook is still part of the government and running around in a crown limo.

[k14]

Lastly, how could you conclude from my comments that I would be voting Pepsi Labour over Coke National...as Renegade Masty says: "A vote for the greens is a vote for communism" They will get two from me

Greens/labour, its the same isn't it??

If you refer to my post here. May I ask if you support that, those are cold hard facts. Do you support child porn and p?? By the sounds of your other posts, totally plausible. The way the Greens voted on that list just shows what an extremist and illogical crowd they actually are. Get in the "anti-smacking" reform for so called "child welfare" but in the same breath condone child abortions?? Where is the logic there?

Yes, I could be fooled into voting for Labour, or any of the other parties, they are at least on the same planet as I am.

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No, but we've seen the EFA shut down campaigning by any but political parties and trade unions, Liarbour and the Greens squeal about "big business" influence buying elections whilst all along they are rorting the public purse and getting double-bubble from Union funds.

So like me then you'd be all for transparent, equally distributed state funds for each political party - in order that fringe beneficiaries don't provide a unfair advantage prior to election and then receive afterward?

Or even more preferrable - censoring of propaganda and state run broadcasting?

After all (just like you and I) their fundamental positions don't change from one election to the next.

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Yeah minimal influence...that's why a proven crook is still part of the government and running around in a crown limo.

You a bit thick? This thread is about the greens I'm not about to start defending the actions of NZ First's leader, although I would suggest that Owen Glen was a plant and that corruption can an does occur even more prevalently within single party governments

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Greens/labour, its the same isn't it??

If you refer to my post here. May I ask if you support that, those are cold hard facts. Do you support child porn and p?? By the sounds of your other posts, totally plausible. The way the Greens voted on that list just shows what an extremist and illogical crowd they actually are. Get in the "anti-smacking" reform for so called "child welfare" but in the same breath condone child abortions?? Where is the logic there?

Yes, I could be fooled into voting for Labour, or any of the other parties, they are at least on the same planet as I am.

Context my friend. And what are your sources out of interest? Selected readings from Bishop Brian Tamaki? You sound a bit like a candidate for Briansville, Sth Auckland.

[Ixion]

....as Renegade Masty says: "A vote for the greens is a vote for communism" They will get two from me

If you believe that then you are lamentably ignorant about the nature of one or both. I cannot readily conceive of two ideals more radically divergent than Communism and Greens.

Unfortunately there is no Communist candidate in my electorate so I will be able to give them only one of my votes. The other will go, as always to the man/woman/goat that I judge best capable of representing the interests of the electorate, regardless of party.

[k14]

Context my friend. And what are your sources out of interest? Selected readings from Bishop Brian Tamaki? You sound a bit like a candidate for Briansville, Sth Auckland.

No certainly not, just a regular kiwi as far as I am concerned. I thought that the majority of kiwis would also object to child porn and P so either I'm mistaken or you're in the minority. If you bothered to read my link the sources are all there to be seen.

[MisterD]

So like me then you'd be all for transparent, equally distributed state funds for each political party - in order that fringe beneficiaries don't provide a unfair advantage prior to election and then receive afterward?

Or even more preferrable - censoring of propaganda and state run broadcasting?

After all (just like you and I) their fundamental positions don't change from one election to the next.

Fuck no. Transparent is good, state funding is not. If you can't get donors who believe in your message to fund you, you don't deserve an outlet for your views.