Fast and Safe

[spudchucka]

And getting worse. As the public increasingly believe that the Police won't respond, they're less likely to bother reporting crime. Unless their insurance co requires it.

And there are heaps that report bogus crimes for their insurance companies too. Does that make it even then?

[Biff]

More like a little kid's play pen for him and his mates.

I think I'll join a forum full of people from all walks of life, be condescending, belittle them and finally abuse every single one of them. Way to go.

[spudchucka]

It's good to have company, I've been entertaining Spud, Scumdog, et al. for a while now. They've been missing me lately, since I've been busy with other things.

Entertaining in a "what a load of dogs bollocks" sort of way.

[Alan Wilkinson]

It's good to have company, I've been entertaining Spud, Scumdog, et al. for a while now. They've been missing me lately, since I've been busy with other things.

Yes, I noticed they began by trying to insult you and then moved on to me. It's been interesting getting a good look at their mentality and temper which is a bit worse than I expected I guess. But they might be unrepresentative of cops?

[Alan Wilkinson]

I think I'll join a forum full of people from all walks of life, be condescending, belittle them and finally abuse every single one of them. Way to go.

A bit upset that you haven't been able to bully us, are you? Well, fyi, there are some sensible people here with whom I have enjoyed debate, even when we disagreed. Unfortunately, there seem to be quite a few others.

[spudchucka]

Is that actually an insult? Or are you deflecting attention from who actually started the abuse on THIS website.

I'm suggesting that noody other you gives a shit.

I made my position quite clear to Alan in posts 77 & 128. Up until then I was willing to give him a go and hadn't "abused" him unless you consider a little traditional baiting as abuse. If you do then you obviously have double standards as this is pretty much your own standard operating procedure.

In post 89 you suggest I have started abusing him but prior to that I had been answering his questions as openly as I could.

As the thread has progressed I've been steadily losing all respect for him.

If my posts reflect that then too bad.

[Lou Girardin]

Yes, I noticed they began by trying to insult you and then moved on to me. It's been interesting getting a good look at their mentality and temper which is a bit worse than I expected I guess. But they might be unrepresentative of cops?

It seems to be a characteristic of the authoritarian personality type. I hate to admit it, but I thought a bit like Spud when I was in the MOT (not much though). But life outside law enforcement opens your eyes to other possiblities.

[spudchucka]

Ha! Lion's den??? Poor old Spud has delusions of grandeur. More like a little kid's play pen for him and his mates.

And you've been spitting your dummy again, have'nt you Alan.

Alan, you don't even ride a bike. You only came here to either rub up your own ego or to recruit support for your own cause.

Seems that other than old Lou you have been annoying quite a few of the locals. Maybe you should go back to you own play pen? Have you thought about starting a forum on your own web site? Think of the fun you could have.

[spudchucka]

As I said, avoid creating private monopolies. But it sounds like you would have been really happy in communist Russia or Albania. You would have enjoyed the fantastic service and innovations from government enterprises.

Come to think of it, the police probably had dachas on the Black Sea coast.

No! I prefer the old Nazi Germany way. At least that what Lou always suggests.

[Alan Wilkinson]

You only came here to either rub up your own ego or to recruit support for your own cause.

No, I originally came here to correct some misrepresentations I read on this thread. I stayed mostly to see what I could find out, and to answer the few sensible questioners. But also to see how you bully boys reacted to a bit of your own medicine. Not very well, as I expected.

[spudchucka]

Not quite, cutie. You've admitted yourself you don't report traffic infringement warnings in case your ticket/warning ratio looks bad. The pressure is obvious.

Also in today's Herald:

ASSUMPTION! Its my choice, there is no pressure, it actually makes me look bad because I'm not delivering the hours they want me too. I could achieve this by recording warnings. I choose not to for my own personal reasons not because of the pressure from some boss or policy.

[spudchucka]

That's good, because I would be concerned at any praise from a man like you.

[Paul in NZ]

I think it depends how it's done. Even if there is competition between private and public provisions it would be an improvement. [E.g. private prisons - so successful the govt closed it down to protect its unions]
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Really? - Thats a new one on me? I did a little work on electronics systems for prisons etc etc but civil rights people don't like stuff like that. To be fair, Unions have there place and can do a lot of good for the ordinary working man! I've been on both sides of that coin!

I agree with most of that. Where I would differ (and this is just personal opinion - nothing to do with FastAndSafe issues), is:

a) we have far too many laws and regulations designed to protect people from themselves and this has created far too many pseudo crimes and work for police.

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Possibly. Others would argue we don't have enough laws to stop people being exploited by cruel corporations and carpet baggers.

b) classic example is cannabis laws. How many people have died from cannabis? How many people have died from cannabis prohibition? How much money has cannabis prohibition delivered to organised crime? How many people grow and support addictive habits on welfare?

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There is another thread on this already! PLEASE don't throw petrol on the fires of this thread. I can just see stoned CEO's driving at 200kph in the company XR8....

c) police get landed with too many mental health problems.
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Yet Lou and co lambasted the Police over the recent Irena Asher case. This is a classic one where the Police were overloaded due to a individual making bad personal choices over where they went, who they went with and their medication (mental health issue). While you point about there being too many laws preventing people from harming themselves everyone still expects the Police to turn out and often risk their own lives to help them. How would the average cop on the beat manage that? "Sorry mate, we can't help you because you made a stupid decision?"

The charm wears off when you have a 250 km journey to do a job.
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I dunno. I still commute 500km a week and used to do over 1300km a week for several years around the country. Never felt the need to speed in the company vehicle. Kinda liked to get into a good frame of mind for the job in hand! (working on live telecommunications gear and power is not a job for a man in a hurry or stressed by time)

Incidentally, I've nothing against slow drivers when they are considerate and allow other traffic to pass. Very often it is the second driver in a long queue who is incompetent, blocks others from overtaking but won't overtake themselves.

Now THAT we can agree on. If the second vehicle would just drop back a little so people could pass in 2 hops, a lot of frustration would be avoided!

BTW - It works 2 ways. I commute in a small economical old car I bought to teach the kids to drive in (and found I love it) and regularly pull over to let people pass. About 10% thank you for it.. Amazing!

[spudchucka]

This is a finding reported by Univ of Texas researchers, not me. They investigated desired speeds and broke down the results by many variables including also sex, age, vehicle type, population density where they lived.

Its in a section entitled "Our Comments" And is preceeded by a paragraph that starts "My current thinking is.....".

Shouldn't you be referencing the "research" of others instead of passing it off as your own ideas?

Isn't that plagerism?

[Alan Wilkinson]

BTW - It works 2 ways. I commute in a small economical old car I bought to teach the kids to drive in (and found I love it) and regularly pull over to let people pass. About 10% thank you for it.. Amazing!

I agree. I always try to wave a thank-you. But it's a bit hard to be seen from the driver's seat - and I worry they might think I'm being rude. We need a clear "thank-you" sign. Overseas they do it with flashing lights.