Use meths or

**98tls** · 3rd November 2008, 12:56

This may well be the outcome,id been told it was wise to put a bit in everynow and then but never bothered so only myself to blame,this only took 10 years to go bad.

**BOGAR** · 3rd November 2008, 13:25

Its the first i have ever heard of this. What is the deal and for a 2004 bike should it still be a problem?? How much and how often with the meths?

**Fatjim** · 3rd November 2008, 13:26

That'l teach you for leaving your lawn mower outside.

**nodrog:Me** · 3rd November 2008, 13:39

that shit will buff out

**CookMySock** · 3rd November 2008, 13:42

I think this happens when the bike is left unused with a partial tank of fuel. The air in the tank temperature-cycles every day, sucking in moisture-laden air and proceeds to condense the moisture out of it on the next cold cycle.

You can also get the tank coated on the inside with some epoxy(?) to stop corrosion.

Steve

**sinfull** · 3rd November 2008, 13:42

mmmmm wonder what meths does to plastic tanks ewwww i got a plastic tank ! thunk thunk

**98tls** · 3rd November 2008, 13:54

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

I think this happens when the bike is left unused with a partial tank of fuel. The air in the tank temperature-cycles every day, sucking in moisture-laden air and proceeds to condense the moisture out of it on the next cold cycle.

You can also get the tank coated on the inside with some epoxy(?) to stop corrosion.

Steve

I did the TL one with POR15 but sadly it was a bit late,bike spent a lot of time sitting on sidestand,water goes to the lowest point in tank and sits there,hence the holes,amazing how bad it was really,before blowing it out there was only 2 holes visable the rest was hidden waiting to piss me off down the track a bit,very poor sealing from new methinks.As for how much meths,just a teaspoon everynow and then will see an end to water in your tank.

**AllanB** · 3rd November 2008, 13:55

Hmmmm interesting....

I've always parked my bikes with a full tank - easy for me as I have always used them for pleasure not daily transport- ie weekend fangs and touring trips.

I owned (from new) a 1983 Kawasaki that I sold two and a half years ago and the tank was mint - no sign of rust. I attribute this to keeping it full after each ride.

Meths is a old answer for getting water out of a fuel tank - the word used to be a cup of meths to a car tank. Figure a car at 40-50 litres. With bikes being somewhere around 20, a bit under half a cup would be a similar ratio. That's 100-125mls to a FULL tank.

**Ixion** · 3rd November 2008, 13:57

Machinists' soluble cutting oil.

**98tls** · 3rd November 2008, 13:58

Originally Posted by RED YZFR6

Its the first i have ever heard of this. What is the deal and for a 2004 bike should it still be a problem?? How much and how often with the meths?

It will affect any bike with a steel tank,problem with bikes such as mine is the water cant go anywhere,only way to completly remove it is to take tank off remove fuel pump from the tank and empty,a teaspoon of meths every few fills would seem easier methinks,pity i never bothered

would have saved me some time/money.

**Usarka** · 3rd November 2008, 14:00

Originally Posted by sinfull

mmmmm wonder what meths does to plastic tanks ewwww i got a plastic tank ! thunk thunk

Meths is basically just ethanol, so go fill up at gull and find out

**Ixion** · 3rd November 2008, 14:03

Meths will be fine for plastic tanks. Rubber hoses and seals, maybe not, but the ratio is so small that there will be no problem in practice. I use the good old fashioned measuring system, a glug and two sloshes per tankful, every twice in a while.

**98tls** · 3rd November 2008, 14:05

Originally Posted by AllanB

Hmmmm interesting....

I've always parked my bikes with a full tank - easy for me as I have always used them for pleasure not daily transport- ie weekend fangs and touring trips.

I owned (from new) a 1983 Kawasaki that I sold two and a half years ago and the tank was mint - no sign of rust. I attribute this to keeping it full after each ride.

Meths is a old answer for getting water out of a fuel tank - the word used to be a cup of meths to a car tank. Figure a car at 40-50 litres. With bikes being somewhere around 20, a bit under half a cup would be a similar ratio. That's 100-125mls to a FULL tank.

Same here mate though methinks that in some way only speed things up as it sits in the garage for months at times not getting used,not sure on an exact rule of thumb but a teaspoon every 2nd/3rd fill would suffice methinks.

**sinfull** · 3rd November 2008, 14:06

Originally Posted by Usarka

Meths is basically just ethanol, so go fill up at gull and find out

See mobil have it now too ! Was gonna give it a go but went with the 91 next door, don't know why but the bike seemed remarkably economical at the track this weekend !