Tumbling Through Life
Yeah... the K7 definitely needed some therapy!!! But it still has behavioural problemsOriginally Posted by Gremlin
wow... talking to your bike fixed the problem? There ya go R6... have a chat to the bike.
me thinks he meant conversionJust abit of a social misfit!!!
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Easy! Everyone else seems to throw their gixxers down the road, and it fixes them good!Yeah... the K7 definitely needed some therapy!!! But it still has behavioural problems
Hardcore Biker
With the exception of the latest litre bikes, all the earlier ones had good midrange. Add to that, an already sorted suspension package and light weight, one can't even remotely compare the nakeds to them...
Fighter it dude... You'll miss the power and handling if you degraded to an FZ1, Speed III, Z1000 or whatever else...
For whom the bell tolls
My mates FZ1 is putting out the same/more power than my GSXR1000K3 is at the moment, it's more useable and it can be ridden nicely below 7k, or like a bat out of hell above 7k - and it easily handles the pace on the open road, so in all honesty there wouldn't be any 'downgrading'.
Also have a lot of respect for the Speed III in the right hands.
I just don't have the $$$ to buy either.
I'm going to be building the SF setup (bars and headlights) for my Gixxer as money allows, so should be all done and dusted in 2-3 weeks.
KiwiBitcher
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It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Hardcore Biker
My response was in context to an 8K bike....
I hardly think an older std FZ, Speed III etc will match a K3 unless it's had some attention payed to it...
I don't dispute that any of the newer (more expensive) models will be more than up to the challange...
But then, I'm talking out of my ass... I've never owned one of those... Or actually ridden one, BWAHAHAHAHAHA.....
I have ridden a Z1000, S4R and Superduke and they were quite good on the road at spirited pace... So it all depends on how you ride and who you ride with really...
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what do you define as latest?
My 04 zx10 was a bit of a shocker low down, even tho it had had dyno time
Hardcore Biker
Well, even the 04 had a lot more midrange than the 06/07/08 by all accounts... Did it not?what do you define as latest?
My 04 zx10 was a bit of a shocker low down, even tho it had had dyno time
And did the Gixxers not have more than the 10's?
I recently rode an 06 ZX10 and 07 Blade, there was a distinct difference between the midranges of the two bikes... Many years ago I rode a Z1000 back to back with a 06 ZX10 and the Z1000 felt absolutely flat after the 10. I have ridden an 05/06 R1 and that's just a sewing machine... Revs is what it likes. It did have shorter gearing, so didn't seem to flat though...
I concede that on paper, the older nakeds may have more low down power but when coupled to power/weight ratios, the sportbike should still have the edge, simply due to having 20kg's+ less weight...
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04-05 10 was the peaky crazed animal, subsequent ones had more mid range, however, I can't remember when I last rode an 06-07 that was stock. I've ridden an indecently modified one, which walked right past me when I was doing 270 oddOne thing you cannot deny about the suzukis, they have amazing engines, with torque right from down low (as much as I hate suzuki)
Nakeds have their engine management systems re-tuned, with less up top, more down low. Apples with apples, the cb1000r I believe has crazy amounts low down, cbr1000r, not so much, but then it has more at the top end, higher red line etc.I concede that on paper, the older nakeds may have more low down power but when coupled to power/weight ratios, the sportbike should still have the edge, simply due to having 20kg's+ less weight...
Hardcore Biker
It appears to be so...
K4 still wins though...
Hardcore Biker
Good boy. I just did the same thing with J-Lo until i get my fairings back from the land of dork. Looks cool, Cant wait to ride it tomorrow night.
Bling is on its way.
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k4? gsxr? wins how so?
Problem with all the sportsbikes, is that comparatively, they all make their power higher up. Large amounts of hp, you simply can't let it come on low down. They get looped enough as it is, with their really tall first gears.
hehehehe, poor mate was a bit pissed when his "special" 06 zx10 got beaten off the lights by a cb900
After I beat him a few times, he tried a drag launch... unfortunately, so did I, and while he scooted off, I tried to stop it 12'ing on me
Hardcore Biker
Sorry, meant has torque lower in range...
Tumbling Through Life
Guys truth of the matter is that the modern sports do have torque.. its just that they rev so damn hard that we forget how much they got.. after all Torque Rev and that magic 5252 make up our BHP figures.
If you look at the graph the K7 has 60 ft/lbs at 4k and for most of the rev range has over 80!! My 1100 twin only manages a best of 75 ft/lbs and at 3500 has only 60 available.
Drop a tooth in the front and forget about "perceptions".... tune is tune
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Hardcore Biker
That always makes a big difference... Often it makes the bike more rideable, as opposed to less...
For whom the bell tolls
I find my bike hard to steer when it's on the back wheel, but thats not to say that I don't enjoy it
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
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