What would you do to make the roads safer?

[Genestho]

Money earned from revenue to be re-invested into roadsafety education as it is overseas.

4. Drink driving is not acceptable. Period. First offence = Big fine, Second offence = Jail Time, Third offence = Never allowed to drive on the public highway again.

Perhaps a bit over the top, but I see what you're saying.

A bit over the top, hows that?

Its not acceptable to wave a gun around on our streets, yets its acceptable to have a weapon in the hands of someone incapable of driving, potential risk of death is the same - if not more? And these weapons are accesable to any old cowboy..

Theres a suggestion that to be caught a second time is indicative of abuse or dependancy, because the first time, we supposedly should learn from the shame, fine, legal sanctions and education, and not go there again...there also needs to be consideration taken into high BAC readings even on first offence

Second Offence = Jail time but jail time served to its full sentence, and sent to a & d for assessment (54% of drink drivers are on their 4/5th offence before being ordered for assessment) interlocking devices installed user pays after earning the license back through assesment and treatment programs and post sentencing monitoring via Health and Dept of Corrections, with a National Database.

A Recidivist has three plus convictions:

Third time = Jail time served to its full and more appropriate sentence, the car confiscated for good - regardless of ownership, auctioned - money re-invested into anti drink drive education.
And keep removing the weapon regardless of ownership, that brings others into whether or not they want to lend their car to a drunk risk potentially loosing it, it appears loss of something material or getting caught has a bigger impact than causing death.

Sure remove licences for good, but thats just "paper" its supposed to be law, but 2007 there were 1203 "indefinately" disqualified drivers caught with excess blood alcohol readings.

And quite frankly if everyone were to experience a preventable death in the family on the roads at the hands of another, it would be a sure way to re-evaluate your input on the roads, and personal responsibility

Maybe everyone should should have to survive a smash or simulate surviving a smash, feel the car roll, hear the steel scream, feel the impact, and undertand the damage car and bike and road impacts can do, at high speed and respect your body doesnt bend, it shatters like glass.


Personally I wonder how painted lines prevents the idiots from popping over to see how it is on my side of the road....


DRIVER EDUCATION from a young age, and lots of it, say no more.

[unhingedlizard]

Money earned from revenue to be re-invested into roadsafety education as it is overseas.

4. Drink driving is not acceptable. Period. First offence = Big fine, Second offence = Jail Time, Third offence = Never allowed to drive on the public highway again.

Perhaps a bit over the top, but I see what you're saying.

A bit over the top, hows that?


Personally I wonder how painted lines prevents the idiots from popping over to see how it is on my side of the road....


DRIVER EDUCATION from a young age, and lots of it, say no more.

Absolutely agree with everything you have said. I have often wondered if we lived in a world with no private transportation, and you went to parliment with a plan to allow anyone that completes a small amount of training to drive vehicles weighing up to 4.5 tonnes directly towards each other at a combined speed of 200kph seperated only by a thin line of white paint, how far you would get before being laughed out of the debating chamber.

[Pedrostt500]

I was going to propose some hard arse laws but what is realy needed is EDUCATION.

[Elysium]

Ban most of the female population from owning 4wd trucks.

[Wingnut]

After reading many a thread on him, probably banning Carver and his moron few would be a good start. Anyone who rides at an extremely slow pace is just endangering themselfes and others around them!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

What would you do to make NZ's roads safer if you were a Road Safety Minister?

Stop every one but me from using the roads...

[Choco]

1. Car drivers on learners/restricted cant drive anything over 1.6L or with a turbo. (we get it why shouldnt they?)
2. Community service for 1st drink driving/riding offenses and then jail time.
3. I also agree with 3rd party insurance becoming compulsory.

All done

[rudolph]

The Nazis had the right idear

[Genestho]

1. Car drivers on learners/restricted cant drive anything over 1.6L or with a turbo. (we get it why shouldnt they?)
2. Community service for 1st drink driving/riding offenses and then jail time.
3. I also agree with 3rd party insurance becoming compulsory.

All done

1.That makes sense

2. We do that now, community service on first offence and also for the 5th, 17th etc, problem with that idea is - unless jailtime was a substantial amount - some convictions are quite spread out... eg, remove these people from our roads for good for road users safety, (which its not going to be, comparing "other" sentences) they'll get straight back out, into their cars pissed, onto a road near you.

54% of drink drivers are not ordered for assessment until 4/5th offence

Only 5% of all drink drivers were ordered to attend A&D treatment, we need to aim for long term recovery not just the education provided, and we do not monitor after the current 12 weeks of education.

For every one drink driver convicted and assessed, we fail to intervene and assess and aim treatment at another 10, that need it.

There is no - one, magic bullet, it will take more than one solution, but there are options that are proven to reduce recidivism which we to date in NZ have not tried. We need to stop clinging to the old ways and move with the times, if recidivism is rising by 13% and drink driving by 15%, change the "bloody idiot" record in anti drink drive advertising..

3. I also agree with 3rd party insurance becoming compulsory

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[mister.koz]

Well, i saw somewhere that 90% of accidents that involve cages and bikes are the cager's fault.

So i reckon make it compulsary that you get your bike licence for 2 years and pass at least the restricted test on a bike before applying for your car learners.

Courtesy on the road and complete idiots are the main issue, people who ride bikes are normally more courteous and the stupid ones are more likely to get some smarts feared into them.

I was riding upto a corner the other day at twilight and there were so many signs that i had to dip my headlights to see, seems to me unsafe to have more signs that seal on a corner.

[James Deuce]

Well, i saw somewhere that 90% of accidents that involve cages and bikes are the cager's fault.

So i reckon make it compulsary that you get your bike licence for 2 years and pass at least the restricted test on a bike before applying for your car learners.

Courtesy on the road and complete idiots are the main issue, people who ride bikes are normally more courteous and the stupid ones are more likely to get some smarts feared into them.

There's so many contradictions and distorted truths in there that I don't know where to start.

So instead I'm going to have a Tequila and got to bed.

[mister.koz]

There's so many contradictions and distorted truths in there that I don't know where to start.

So instead I'm going to have a Tequila and got to bed.

Meh, whether the 90% is a fact or fiction i don't know or care. I do think that after a year on a bike you develop a better awareness on the road and more courtesy.

Surely more courteous and aware drivers can't be a bad thing.

[Slyer]

Although completely unfeasible.

[mister.koz]

Although completely unfeasible.

Its still an idea.

Changing rules wont effect the idiots who get pissed and drive or the people who have had their licence for 20 years and refuse to re-learn how to indicate on roundabouts.

The fact is morons will be morons.

Perhaps making it compulsary for people to sit (and pass) a practical defensive driving course before getting their restricted licence (bike and cars)

I think that the drinking things should be much much harder, especially on repeat offenders.

[vgcspares]

The theme of bike training for all makes a lot of sense, but as already observed, totally impractical.

Depleted skills when drunk is more than adequately legislated against, so what we're talking about are the near non existent skills of the sober majority.

Surely the solution would be a license retest (practical not written multiple choice) every 3-5 years - fail and you're off the road.