Call for ban on smoking in cars with kids

[Madness]

Legislation was passed by a British council just this month that will prevent children being fostered into homes occupied by smokers Linky. IMHO that is a tad near-sighted, considering that there may be some perfectly good foster homes where the adult smokers choose to partake in their habit exclusively outdoors.

[Pussy]

Does all this mean you can't bum a smoke from a 7 year old in the car now?

[alanzs]

Does all this mean you can't bum a smoke from a 7 year old in the car now?

It's a slippery slope...

[ManDownUnder]

Legislation was passed by a British council just this month that will prevent children being fostered into homes occupied by smokers Linky. IMHO that is a tad near-sighted, considering that there may be some perfectly good foster homes where the adult smokers choose to partake in their habit exclusively outdoors.

I support it personally. If kids are going to grow up they SHOULD be free from the inhaled effects of smoking, but also the nomring effects of those demonstrating the act of smoking.

If one person can be prevented from smoking by simply putting them in a different house (for ease of argument assuming everything else is the same) then do it.

[Ixion]

So, would you then, by logical extension, support forcibly removing children from homes where their parents (otherwise happy, caring, nurturing, well adjusted etc) smoke? And putting them into the snake pit that is foster care ?

Like someone said, slippery slopes. I don't smoke myself, never have, but I don't agree with demonising those who do.

[Smokin]

Just ban children, They cause a lot more problems than smokers, They are more expensive, A much larger burden for tax payers and just think how much more money the health system would have without them.

[Mom]

I support it personally. If kids are going to grow up they SHOULD be free from the inhaled effects of smoking, but also the nomring effects of those demonstrating the act of smoking.

If one person can be prevented from smoking by simply putting them in a different house (for ease of argument assuming everything else is the same) then do it.

OOOOOOOOOO MDU, we may well have to agree to disagree on this one. I am a smoker, have been for more years than I care to admit. I have raised 3 wonderful kids and spent many years fostering some of the worst cases you could ever imagine. I smoke mate, I am not some sort of demon. I am considerate when I smoke (I hope so anyway). None of my three kids smoke, they hate it! Smoking is no reason to remove children from their family, in fact I will go as far as to say, my smoking was the least harmful thing my foster kids will ever experience in their lives.

I actually really get ticked at the holier than thou non smokers that are found around the place.

Mom

[Madness]

If one person can be prevented from smoking by simply putting them in a different house (for ease of argument assuming everything else is the same) then do it.

Idealistically, that's a wonderful thought. Still seems terribly excessive to me though.

Consider young Johnny's parents die in a horrific hovercraft accident one day and the Authorities assume responsibililty for Johnny's welfare. There is a couple that live close to Johnny's home and were good friends to his late parents. They have wanted children for a long time but had been unable to conceive. The husband smokes, always outside and only a few each day. Because of this habit Johnny is prevented by law from being fostered by this couple and ends up in a foster home. There are several foster kids in this home and Johnny makes freinds with a couple of the other boys. They are both smokers and one day Johnny feels peer pressure to try it himself. The next day they boys are banging up some smack...

[Katman]

Read it on the internet this afternoon. While it's all very admirable (what with ban on smoking in public buildings etc - by extension, if we're going to "protect" non-smoking adults from the toxic byproducts from smokers shouldn't we also be doing our best to protect our kids...) where on earth is this going to stop???

The powers that be are even more determined to tell us how to live. What next? Will they be telling us that if we have children under the age of 10 living in our homes that we're not allowed to smoke there either???

Btw, am a non-smoker. Filthy disgusting habit! BUT I do care about people's rights not being overridden by what's fast becoming a totalitarian state. (hope that's the right "-ian" word!) I'm sure you know what I mean

Do you remember being cooped up in the back seat of the Morrie Traveller while Gran and Pop smoked up a storm in the front?

Ahhhh, memories.

[Indiana_Jones]

Damn evil smoking companies!

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

-Indy

[jrandom]

Misguided nanny-state bullshit.

Labour must go.

(For what it's worth, I don't allow anyone to smoke around my kids, car or otherwise. But that's my business, not the fucking Gubmint's.)

[1 Free Man]

Children should be encoraged to smoke. Cigarettes should be free issue at school. They need an opertunity to get as much crap in their lungs as the can. The tar in smokes helps to seal the lungs against all of the nasties that they will encounter in their adult lives.
They will need a good adiction. If it's nicotene then they will be less inclined to try P, pot or any of those other adictive goodies out there.
Their world is so PC nowdays. God they can't even read NODDY books so at the very least they should be able to have a nice relaxing smoke after a hard day at school.
LET THE KIDS BE KIDS. Stop trying to control there lives for fuck sake they will get enough of that later in life.
SMOKING ROCKS, IT MAKES YOU LOOK COOL. ALL KIDS WANT TO LOOK COOL.
Pharmac should subsidize ciggies to make the more affordable for children.

[Bren]

What gets me is us smokers are looked at as frikkin outlaws nowdays....FFS, I dont do weed, I dont drink much, I dont gamble much, but I like the odd smoke...And we are the ones targeted with the "disgusting" habbit. What is worse are seeing these frikkin kids get swilled up at night, going into town looking for fights etcetera and then chundering or pissing all over the place!....now that is disgusting, walking down some footpath on a saturday or sunday morning and seeing someones half digested stomach contents out on display!

I smoke, but not in my home. I have a right to smoke in my car if i want....

[sinfull]

OMG, I'm not even going to ask how you know that!!

So ya moving to China ? Or better still .....
Lets see you in japan ! meet ya there, you go first, give ya time to aclimaticatise ! Where are we better off ? For now ?

Does all this mean you can't bum a smoke from a 7 year old in the car now?

No ! but you can bum a fag !

What gets me is us smokers are looked at as frikkin outlaws nowdays....FFS, I dont do weed, I dont drink much, I dont gamble much, but I like the odd smoke...And we are the ones targeted with the "disgusting" habbit. What is worse are seeing these frikkin kids get swilled up at night, going into town looking for fights etcetera and then chundering or pissing all over the place!....now that is disgusting, walking down some footpath on a saturday or sunday morning and seeing someones half digested stomach contents out on display!

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Ahah so you have seen Otaki ?