Sorry Katman, but fu@king cagers!

[Slyer]

It sounds to me like you were overtaking on a blind corner. Could you see that the lane was clear for the entire length you would need it to pass?

On a long straight as I said.
If there were two cars I would not have attempted said passing maneuver in case one of them wanted to pass.

[swbarnett]

On a long straight as I said.

Sorry, missed that bit. I'll go back to sleep now...

[hayd3n]

if everyone had 3rd party wouldent it make insurence cheaper ???
as we dont have to pay for non insurers???

[Slyer]

I get the feeling that the price may increase if it were compulsory, maybe?

[Tank]

if everyone had 3rd party wouldent it make insurence cheaper ???
as we dont have to pay for non insurers???

I get the feeling that the price may increase if it were compulsory, maybe?

I would think that it would be cheaper - but who knows. One would hope that the same legislation that is past to make it compulsory would also include parts to prevent the insurance companies from profiteering.

Having said that in the UK where it is required - a LOT of people are priced out of their cars due to insurance. I had two cars (not at the same time) that were over 3000 POUNDS to insure a year - limited miles, always garaged and outside London. thieving bastards.

[ital916]

Well to be fair, it was an assumption. We didn't even look up what it would cost.

The main reason we didn't insure him, is so he was forced to reconcile the concept of "What ever I break - I pay for." While many people are happy to cover their risk by purchasing a policy, life in general doesnt rotate in this fashion, so it was an important basic fundamental to get well-seated into his mind. You can be sure he feels this in his heart every time he rides his bike, and the results of this are directly observable in his behaviour on the road - a trait I wanted to set in concrete before we even put a helmet on him, and I think I have succeeded. If my hunch is correct I will have permanently built a responsible rider. I guess we will see.

Anyways, time for a hijack alert, as our dear PB's thread is getting quite off-topic.

My point was, not all teenagers are assholes. I have met PBs kids and she has met mine, and I think we are both exceedingly grateful for the responsible kids we have - they have an excellent chance of still being alive in 20 years. It's scary to have the less responsible act dangerously around us.

With regard to the problem at hand, if said clown is going to dangerously pass me regardless (on duty as tail-end-charlie) I usually do a large exaggerated finger-point at them and then at the L-Plate, and then move out of their way and let them do as they choose. I have not had a failure with this method yet, and it is certainly much safer than closing up the gap and going into mother-hen mode, which as has been observed bunches the traffic up dangerously.


IMO,
Steve

Man I just found this thread.....db no offence but that is one of the most stupid ideas I have ever heard, its like teching a child gun safety by letting them play with one. If they blow their foot off, whoops now you know guns can be dangerous.

Your son sounds like a very intelligent child so hopefully he turns around and goes "dad, what the fuck are you on about, I'll take the insurance and ride like a responsible rider"

[Speedracer]

Sound more like you were asking for Full AND third party insurance.
After all, why would it make any difference whether your bike was stored in a garage that was locked etc - it's really only when you're riding it that you're ever going to hit another vehicle/property and need third party insurance, am I right or did I miss something?

they only do 3rd party fire and theft, not just third party.

[Sly_guy]

I was absolutely astounded when I moved here from the UK to find that I can quite happily go out, and buy any car, and so long as it's got rego and wof, and drive down the road....

In the UK, having at least 3rd party insurance is AS important as having the car Taxed and MOT'd (and a FULL LEGAL REQUIREMENT)... and this is one of the few things I VERY much agree with that the "establishment" have enforced over there !

It actually scares me, that someone could run in to a vehicle of mine, causing lots of $$$ of damage, and I'll end up having to claim off my own insurance, and paying an increased premium and the excess as they can't afford to pay for the damage.

The reality as I see it,,, and this may be a bit of a generalisation, but, if you can't afford 3rd party insurance, then you're VERY unlikley to be able to afford the $$$$'s of repairs to whatever vehicle you have an accident with..

Again, as others have said.. The cost of insurance really needs to be factored in to the ownership of ANY vehicle... Regardless of age, height, gender and sexuality...

[Sparrowhawk]

This afternoon RipperRoo92 and I went out for a nice pootle through Maraetai/Whitford (one of our fav runs) with a young fellow, just on his L plate.

Sorry to head back TOWARDS the original topic...
PB, I'm thinking of taking an L Plater on that road on Friday. Last time I was on it, about a month ago, they'd ripped up the road between Beachlands & Maraetai, was rough gravel. I don't think my darling wife (the L plater in question) will enjoy that much...

Do you know if the roadworks are finished??

[Sly_guy]

PB, I'm thinking of taking an L Plater on that road on Friday. Last time I was on it, about a month ago, they'd ripped up the road between Beachlands & Maraetai, was rough gravel. I don't think my darling wife (the L plater in question) will enjoy that much...

Do you know if the roadworks are finished??

I was out that way last friday, and other than a bit just near the roundabout at beechlands, it's pretty much sorted !

[PrincessBandit]

Yeah, it was pretty rough a few months back!! But mostly it's done so should be sweet for you. Funnily enough when my son and did the ride when the pot holes were at their worst he ripped through the stretch confidently while it was me playing dodge the holes!

[varminter]

Someone on this thread (I think) suggested carrying a hand gun for use against cage drivers. I wish to go on record as stating that it's illigal and very naughty. A sawn off shot gun would be easier to use

[stanleychung]

I hate to bring this thread back to life again but I didn't want to start another new thread about the same thing.

None is more true than after my first couple of rides on my new bike that I started to notice how the majority cage drivers tend to speed and tailgate really badly.

There were several situations where I'm going at the speedlimit down a two way residential street and i get passed by a cage. Just because I'm not as wide as a typical cage they just see that as just reason to perform dangerous passing moves.

I certainly hope I dont drive like that when I'm in a cage. Certainly by having now experienced what it is like to be on a bike I will certainly treat the road and other road users with a great deal more caution and respect.

I tend to feel now that cage drivers have absolutely no thought to the consequences of speeding or not being aware of your surroundings and how that could affect other road users.

I certainly hope that my experience on my bike is not tainted by a cage driver's inattention or disregard. Here's hoping.