Riding in groups - Some of you have no idea!

[buellbabe]

I tend to ride with only 2 or 3 other bikes and no matter who is leading we just naturally fall into a staggered mode. We each know the others style of riding and if an emergency stop happens there is very little chance of any of us rear-ending the other.
Quite simply. It works.

[Maha]

eh? Its good fun riding in close formation. It gives me something interesting to do while we putter along at 90k.

Yeah some things are dangerous, but also they are fun so we do them from time to time for kicks. Thats what motorcycling IS innit? Or do we always ONLY do safe stuff? Why ride a bike if we can't misbehave? Whats the point to that?

Steve

Just a few points Steve....

There is a thread doing the rounds atm, 'which piece of road do you own'' you may have seen it?
While I view that thread as a 'throw away thread' hence my comment in there, one should also think about the flipside of the thread title.

'Some day, that same peice of road could own you'

I wasn't going to get into this but...
Last Saturday night, a question was asked by a young fulla that totally floored me.
He said '' do you guys ride to die or ride to live''?
Now the headspace of some people on here leaves me gobsmacked at times, really it does. I do not ever need to be around people who beleive in that statement.

If I owned this site, the would be a regular cleanout of memebers, they would be given the option of toning it down or fucking off.
Sure some things are said in jest on here and I have a pretty good idea of whos having a wind up and whos not. That being said, posting dumb shit for the sake of it (or a response) is begining to wear thin from where I sit.

[nodrog:Me]

If I owned this site....

i hear Finn is in need of money to pay for his latino ladyboy, he may well be selling.

[Zoolander]

eh? Its good fun riding in close formation. It gives me something interesting to do while we putter along at 90k.

Yeah some things are dangerous, but also they are fun so we do them from time to time for kicks. Thats what motorcycling IS innit? Or do we always ONLY do safe stuff? Why ride a bike if we can't misbehave? Whats the point to that?

Steve

You really are a complete twat aren't you. I only hope no newcomers to this game ever browse through these forums and take any of your ill conceived posts seriously.

[Maha]

You really are a complete twat aren't you. I only hope no newcomers to this game ever browse through these forums and take any of your ill conceived posts seriously.

Exactly my point, weed out the fucken rubbish that we all know has no substance at all, and maybe, just maybe this wonderful site wont attract those who dont appretiate thier own lives, let alone others.

[Maha]

i hear Finn is in need of money to pay for his latino ladyboy, he may well be selling.

Primo, I want to get off the floor and into a comfy seat....like yours...

[Tank]

You really are a complete twat aren't you. I only hope no newcomers to this game ever browse through these forums and take any of your ill conceived posts seriously.

You have to remember this is the same Dangerousbastard who threw a wobbly because he wasnt made a mentor.

I don't believe he post this kind of dribble to get a reaction - I actually think he believes it.

If he rides as he says he does, and beyond his limits - I think its only a matter of time until he takes himself off KB. I just hope he doesn't take any others with him.

(Hoping the mods prefer this post in the thread - the other one got me infracted and PD'ed)

[AlBundy]

You do NOT overtake except to follow your wheelman. He (and those ahead of him) will only overtake something if signalled to do so by pack leader or ride captain. If your wheelman moves out, you move out. You must trust the pack leader. You keep your track (so, like a car), based on your wheelman. You do not open up or close up without a signal from the pack leader. You do not go slower, or faster than your wheelman. So, the whole pack stays together. Above all, if you know what is good for you do not fuck up. If you do, any crash will probably be the least of your worries.

Those who do not observe the propierties end up having a painful interview with the Master at Arms.

(your wheelman is the rider ahead of you. Your position in the pack will be asigned by the pack leader. You stay there . No ifs buts or maybes. The wheelman will be in front of you, to your left or right. He will take far right wheeltrack or far left wheel track, you take the opposite. And stay there. Come what may. You brake when he does. Accelerate when he does)

It is not easy this riding. I have not done it for many years. But if done properly it is quite safe.

WHAT?

This logic goes a long way to explain why you see some VERY STUPID overtaking. Does the trailing rider NOT have the ability to think for himself?

I'm sorry, I'm not following anyone into an overtaking manoeuver unless I've confirmed it's safe to do so, rules be fucked!

[slimjim]

For a procession: tight stagger, the front of your front wheel level with the rear of your wheelman's rear wheel (but in the other track of course) . Loose stagger, one bike length between your front and his rear. Highway, open up to about 3 bike lengths.

BUT: the important point that is not realised is that this only works if all riders observe group riding discipline.

You do NOT overtake except to follow your wheelman. He (and those ahead of him) will only overtake something if signalled to do so by pack leader or ride captain. If your wheelman moves out, you move out. You must trust the pack leader. You keep your track (so, like a car), based on your wheelman. You do not open up or close up without a signal from the pack leader. You do not go slower, or faster than your wheelman. So, the whole pack stays together. Above all, if you know what is good for you do not fuck up. If you do, any crash will probably be the least of your worries.

Those who do not observe the propierties end up having a painful interview with the Master at Arms.

(your wheelman is the rider ahead of you. Your position in the pack will be asigned by the pack leader. You stay there . No ifs buts or maybes. The wheelman will be in front of you, to your left or right. He will take far right wheeltrack or far left wheel track, you take the opposite. And stay there. Come what may. You brake when he does. Accelerate when he does)

It is not easy this riding. I have not done it for many years. But if done properly it is quite safe.

O yea...been there.. done this..however this above is pack riding....not group riding..diff is wearing on back an what relates too..social riding as what...group riding is classed as..

[outlawtorn]

WHAT?

This logic goes a long way to explain why you see some VERY STUPID overtaking. Does the trailing rider NOT have the ability to think for himself?

I'm sorry, I'm not following anyone into an overtaking manoeuver unless I've confirmed it's safe to do so, rules be fucked!

Dude, I think you may have taken this differently to others, of course your safety is paramount but you do have to place a certain amount of trust on the group leader. Yes you have the ability to think and decide for yourself, but when you have anything from 3 to 300 bikes behind all looking at the people ahead for guidance then you better make sure you fall into line. Also different circumstances apply to different scenarios, if you are riding on the moroway and everything is peachy then cool, but if you are in the country and going through heaps of twisties then you increase your following distance and take the safest line into a corner.

Does anyone remember the huge pile up that happended in Portugal a few years back? I can only guess that staggered riding was not being thought about or adhered to.

[PirateJafa]

Just a few points Steve....

You really are a complete twat aren't you. I only hope no newcomers to this game ever browse through these forums and take any of your ill conceived posts seriously.

Guys, don't feed the troll.

[Finn]

i hear Finn is in need of money to pay for his latino ladyboy, he may well be selling.

Sheboy earns her keep, don't you worry. Just got back from lunch... phew, sleepy now.

P.S. Say "No" to group rides.

[nodrog:Me]

Just got back from lunch... ...

at least you wont find hair in your tuna sandwhich.

[Finn]

at least you wont find hair in your tuna sandwhich.

Looked more like a badly wrapped kebab afterwards.

[warewolf]

I've posted before: Staggered formation is wrong.

Essentially there is one optimum place to be on the road at a given time, and that should not be compromised by proximity to another vehicle, apparently 'friendly' or not.

Staggered formation is something to be reserved for your next circus performance, like these guys: