Up the speed limit

**marty** · 19th January 2004, 09:08

speaking of speed, i am trying to locate a speed camera picture of a targa car near national park at 330kmh. i'll post it when i get it - you 'll be suprised how clear it is

**wkid_one** · 19th January 2004, 09:12

Thereby dispelling the myth that if you travel of 'X' speed you won't get pinged

**marty** · 19th January 2004, 09:12

Originally Posted by spudchucka

The problem for the general public that speeds occasionally is that cops are not being encouraged to use their discretion but rather to issue infringement notices whenever an offence is disclosed. Some would argue that this is the only fair way to police the roads in that an offence is punished regardless of the circumstances or who the offender is.

valid point, but i know a few highway patrol guys who are also bikers, and they are the ones to get if you're going a bit quick - as they say, there's always another (cage driver) around the corner.....

**wkid_one** · 19th January 2004, 09:17

Originally Posted by marty

speaking of speed, i am trying to locate a speed camera picture of a targa car near national park at 330kmh. i'll post it when i get it - you 'll be suprised how clear it is

Speaking of speed - may be interesting to some

**Drunken Monkey** · 19th January 2004, 09:23

Originally Posted by wkid_one

Thereby dispelling the myth that if you travel of 'X' speed you won't get pinged

That is more to do with how the unit is designed to operate, eg on 'Top Gear' they stated that UK GATSOs MUST take 2 x pictures of your vehicle in order to issue an infringement notice...some cars can go fast enough to be out of frame before the second shot.

As far as not capturing a picture of a car on camera here, it surprises me how many people seem to think that becuase their $200 point and shoot camera can only do 1/250th of a second, that speed camera aren't any better.

At 1/16,000th of a second (your typical medium-good quality SLR) a 330km/h car would move:

330km/h / 3600 = .09166 km/s = 91.66m/s

91.66m/s * 1/16,000 = 0.005m = 5mm

That 4m car would have moved 5mm in a conservative exposure time. Not unreasonable to think a speed camera could do in excess of 1/40,000th sec.

PS - This isn't the fabled pic of a while GTR Skyline down some straight in the South Island?? I heard it was faked...

**marty** · 19th January 2004, 09:34

no - it's a highly modded scimitar, i have been in it at high speed, and it's quick. it will do 9000rpm in 6th gear, and was pinged a 2 minute penalty in the 2002 targa for being under the minimum time for the national park stage. it has been built by an ex formula 1 mechanic, with no expense spared

**Drunken Monkey** · 19th January 2004, 09:40

Ah yes, I know the one.

**marty** · 19th January 2004, 09:51

here's a pic of it.

**spudchucka** · 19th January 2004, 22:17

Originally Posted by marty

valid point, but i know a few highway patrol guys who are also bikers, and they are the ones to get if you're going a bit quick - as they say, there's always another (cage driver) around the corner.....

Agreed, I was generalising and also know plenty of decent Hwy ptrl guys who possess a decent common sense gland. My point really was that the organisation doesn't encourage the use of discretion in speed enforcement.

**Indiana_Jones** · 20th January 2004, 22:41

lol auto bahn styles, anywayz If you raise the speed limit people will still break it

-Indy

**Lou Girardin** · 25th January 2004, 16:01

These debates always bring up the same responses, eg. what happens when you're doing 130 and you come up to a car at 80 around a corner. Our roads are only designed for 80km/h, etc etc etc.
It's all bullshit, any speed is dangerous if you don't drive to the conditions. Back in the '80s Tip Top corner on the Sth M/Way was known as a death trap, yet we used to regularly take it at 160 plus. but not if there wasn't room to do so.
Here's a question, when they raised the speed limit from 80 to 100km/h in 1984, what improvements did they make to the roads before they did so?
Answer - None. Yet the road toll started to fall.
And if you're going to accept the lowest common denominator argument, then NZ's drivers warrant a 50km/h speed limit.
Who's in favour?
Lou

**XRNR** · 25th January 2004, 19:23

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

...It's all bullshit, any speed is dangerous if you don't drive to the conditions. Back in the '80s Tip Top corner on the Sth M/Way was known as a death trap, yet we used to regularly take it at 160 plus....

Sorry, couldn't help remembering the picture on the front page of the NZ Herald I woke up to early one Saturday morning (back then). With a completely disintegrated Mk3 (I think) Zephyr strewn across the Krd end of Ponsonby Rd. After it had come up Newton Gully & got airborne & collected one of those nice big trees by the water tank.

All that was left was wreckage (like the latest space shuttle disaster) and a nice big V8 block sitting in the middle of the road.

That memory will live with me for ever. Anyone else remember it?

A fine example of speeding!

**XRNR** · 25th January 2004, 19:30

Originally Posted by marty

speaking of speed, i am trying to locate a speed camera picture of a targa car near national park at 330kmh. i'll post it when i get it - you 'll be suprised how clear it is

While you're at it, can you try and track down the one you were mentioning about the guy doing 300ish, lying on the tank of the Hayabusa too!

**Jackrat** · 25th January 2004, 22:31

Originally Posted by XRNR

Sorry, couldn't help remembering the picture on the front page of the NZ Herald I woke up to early one Saturday morning (back then). With a completely disintegrated Mk3 (I think) Zephyr strewn across the Krd end of Ponsonby Rd. After it had come up Newton Gully & got airborne & collected one of those nice big trees by the water tank.

All that was left was wreckage (like the latest space shuttle disaster) and a nice big V8 block sitting in the middle of the road.

That memory will live with me for ever. Anyone else remember it?

A fine example of speeding!

Yep,That would of been about 75-76,And as you say it was mean one.