Why I hate "look how fast I ride" videos.

[PrincessBandit]

'Ormon'?

Woah, that's starting to closely resemble "Osmond" Here Donny, here Donny!!
Ps he was actually pretty cute in his younger days (sorry Katman, shouldn't be such an embarrassing sister on your birthday. You wont disown me will you?).

[fstfzr]

I realise your trying to make a point but ...


trackday. $100. 160km travelled... 62.5 cents/km

being pulled over. $120 fine. 10000km travelled. 1.2 cents/km

Of course costs are assumed and figures are subject to change

Dont get me wrong m8 Ive had my share of speeding tickets (like to think Ive learned my lesson) but 62.5 cents a km flat out seems like a good deal to me

[cowboyz]

Believe me cowboyz, I'm well aware of what "extreme speed" is about. While you might not believe you achieved "extreme speed" in that video, I saw countless times when you left nothing in reserve for any unexpected occurances. In my opinion that makes for dumbarse riding.

The camera doesnt reflex what you see in real life. Another mate commented on the truck pass at the start of the video but in real life we both could see well ahead and knew nothing was coming. I say this as an example of how the camera perceives things that arent actually true.
At no time during the day, with the camera being on or off, did either myself or NZsarge put ourselves in a position that we couldnt have bailed out of.
Another comment on the crossing of the centre lines. Again, the camera cant see what we can see. we know how much time we need to get back on our side of the road and my whole riding style is based on ' do whatever you want but do it delibrately'. Plenty of viewers took the video for what it is. I cant remember if it was you or dipshit that recommended that we ride faster but we held a pace we were comfortable with.

[cowboyz]

Dont get me wrong m8 Ive had my share of speeding tickets (like to think Ive learned my lesson) but 62.5 cents a km flat out seems like a good deal to me

just being facious really.

I love trackdays and dont get to do enough of them but thats why I brought the 9 over a touring bike. Trackdays rock but riding 'at pace' (not terminal velocity) on backroads is fun too.

[fstfzr]

Agreed cowboyz have seen your vid and could hardly be put in the same categree as 200+ wheelstands and jumping bridges that to me is no margin for error

[Katman]

You're not alone though cowboyz.

What initially prompted me to start this thread was watching a video posted by marty in the "What road do you own" thread. (And I thought he was a cop ).

You, marty, beyond and many others are all part of Motorcycling's cancer.

[roy.nz]

The you tube videos are great for a good laugh at how stupid some people are, but yeah keep the outright how fast i can go vids for the track and maybe you'l get to hampton downs alive. Cant wait for that place and the WSB

[SARGE]

i just find the ignore button a useful tool...its much quieter now that the Moron Few, Skidmark, and Rent-a-kid Masterbator as well as a few other loudmouths are gone..

ahhh.. bliss

i do miss Winja though..

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

i just find the ignore button a useful tool...

I must get round to adding few myself... as soon as I work out were it is...

[Katman]

i just find the ignore button a useful tool...its much quieter now that the Moron Few, Skidmark, and Rent-a-kid Masterbator as well as a few other loudmouths are gone..

ahhh.. bliss

i do miss Winja though..

Bullshit, nobody ever really uses the ignore button.

[roy.nz]

Dont worry cowboyz i got the same deal plus a suspended licence. After a beautiful weekend of track daying a cop went and spoiled it all. One question ....... how many cops use kiwibiker website for personal use ?????????

[SARGE]

my iggy list is measured in Gb..

my motto is

"never argue with an idiot.. they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

much easier than hunting the cunts down and cramming a foot up their ass..


i dont have the energy to deal with arrogant loudmouth douchbags..dont want to get to know the clowns who are jst gonna end up as street pizza anyway.. lost too many friends over the years to try and get to know the obvious Darwin nominees



*click*.. iggy..simple

One question ....... how many cops use kiwibiker website for personal use ?????????

quite a few..some dont advertise thier jobs.. .. some just lurk to up the quota

[stify]

You're not alone though cowboyz.

What initially prompted me to start this thread was watching a video posted by marty in the "What road do you own" thread. (And I thought he was a cop ).

You, marty, beyond and many others are all part of Motorcycling's cancer.

and you are part of this internet/site cancer...judge jury etc etc etc

can't see anything but troll like reactions to most if not all road based videos that get posted...funny thing really when you were not there to witness anything other than what the camera shows.....but now i'm so much wiser...thank you so very much, hope everyone learns never to emulate anything you see on video...ever...

[Big Dave]

YouTube: 15 megabytes of fame pain

Nick Abrahams

Last week Victorian forklift driver, Matthew Ward, was the latest victim of the YouTube generation's fascination with fame.

Ward was ordered to do 50 hours of community work for breaching occupational health and safety laws as a result of driving his forklift in an unsafe manner. His transgressions would have likely gone unnoticed were it not for Ward uploading his forklift stunts onto YouTube where they were found by his employer and a WorkSafe prosecutor.

While I refrain from giving legal advice in this column, I am prepared to go out on a limb and say "It is best not to videotape yourself when breaching the law and further (we lawyers like to say "and further") if you do happen to videotape yourself breaching the law it is not a good idea to upload said video to YouTube for the world and the authorities to see."

You might think this advice is unnecessary, of course no one would upload videos of themselves breaking the law. But they do - everywhere.

The uploaded crimes fall into two main categories:

Bullying/Violent crimes: This is where perpetrators upload videos of themselves committing violent crimes and, sadly, it appears that it is mostly teenagers who are involved. "Happy Slapping" was a phenomenon that gripped Britain about 18 months ago where kids would videotape themselves slapping or worse (in one case murder) a complete stranger and then upload the footage to the internet.

In Florida seven teenagers are to be tried as adults for kidnapping and beating a 16-year-old girl for the purpose of putting the attack on YouTube. The motive is claimed to be pay back for the victim "trash talking" the alleged perps online. In a similar incident, a group of kids, some as young as ten, were charged over the videotaped assault of a 16-year-old New Zealand schoolboy.

Sadly there is quite a long list of such matters, including an 11-year-old boy in Scotland who uploaded a video of himself brandishing a baseball bat and was charged with possessing a weapon in a public place, and a man who was fined £2,500 after he uploaded a video of himself choking and hitting his pet ferret.

Car/Bike (and now Forklift) Shenanigans: This is by far the most common area where people come unstuck. For example the Scots motor biker who was arrested after police viewed him hitting 170mph in his YouTube video and the four men in France who were charged after police viewed footage of them playing chicken with cars on a busy highway.

Online video consumption is growing with 73.7% of the US internet audience viewing videos online. This equates to an audience of 183 million people and is growing strongly. There is also a broad range of video content now available. These sites are not just about wacky groin injury-type home videos but are filled with loads of educational and product/technology video content. The audience and the content selection has led to a steep rise in video searches, especially for those under twenty-five. Google, with its purchase of YouTube, is very well placed to benefit from any move from text to video search.

Web 2.0 with blogging and social networking has as its foundation stone the individual's desire for self expression. Sometimes thinking about the legality of that self-expression takes a back-seat, leading to the seemingly cavalier behaviour of the video uploaders.

Self expression on the internet occurs largely without consequence. Many bloggers appear to have scant regard for defamation laws and, some show all the editorial restraint of a dinner party guest on their third bottle of red. However, they appear to flaunt these laws with impunity. Despite there being millions of blogs, there have only ever been 280 law suits against bloggers in the USA.

Video is just an extension of that self expression, however, video also makes for excellent evidence for the prosecution. It is awfully difficult to plead not guilty when you were the one who set up the mobile phone to video your forklift burnouts.

Certainly these videos have had unintended consequences, but are they really just the tip of the iceberg for this Titanic of self expression? Not only the videos and the blogs, but what of all the candid comments, photos and otherwise on the pages of MySpace, Facebook and myriad other sites - recording for future generations the excesses of one's youth. Will there come a time when you might wish the revelations of your 21st or your formal after-party had been a little more discrete? Who owns or has rights to use this material once you have uploaded it? How do you get it erased from a cached world?

The Australian Law Reform Commission just recently finished a two year review of Australia's privacy regulation. The concept behind privacy law is to protect an individual's "right to be let alone". However, perhaps it may be time to reconsider privacy laws given the YouTube generation's fascination with their 15 megs of fame.

Some final advice, be careful of friends bearing video-enabled mobile phones and always be kind to your ferret.

Nick Abrahams is a Partner and Sydney Office Chairman of law firm, Deacons

[Katman]

........

You'd think it would be fairly obvious wouldn't you Dave.