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    Ergo, we die because we don't know how to ride.


    Maybe that should read, we die because we think we know how to ride!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RT527 View Post
    Maybe that should read, we die because we think we know how to ride!.
    Fatal mismatch of attitude and skill, yes.
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    Not necessarily. Sometimes it's just bad luck. Wrong place, wrong time.
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    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Not necessarily. Sometimes it's just bad luck. Wrong place, wrong time.

    The stats would indicate that that happens more often than you would think...

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    Great report Paul. Cheers. Sobering reading.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    I have printed and will take the time to read ... I believe that these reports are well thought out and am sure it will be sobering.
    Life is a gift that we have all been given. Live life to the full and ensure that you have absolutely no
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Great report Paul. Cheers. Sobering reading.
    Sobering for sure, if you read it the right way - perhaps it's a life saver... I have NO agenda re this, I just think its very very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
    I have printed and will take the time to read ... I believe that these reports are well thought out and am sure it will be sobering.
    Kari - I thought long and hard about this and I know you are aware that I'd pull the whole thing at your say so...

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    Made an interesting comparison on sunday ! Went out for a ride with a guy whom i'd ridden with a few times in the past on the same roads (windy and deserted) we'd ridden some 12 months earlier ! During the first ride of these roads he was leaving me behind on most corners and then i would catch on the straights (similar powered bikes)
    In the meantime (since we'd last done this same ride together) i have done perhaps a dozen track days !
    Sundays ride started with me following, but it soon turned into me leading (think he felt he was being pushed) the ensuing ride was prolly a bit quick but the majority i rode at the pace (straights were not much quicker than the corners) but it was my mate who was left behind this time !
    What has this to do with this thread you say ?
    Well i have begun to wonder if the increase in skill (has to be skill don't it ?) level has me riding at a greater pace than before (well yeah i will admit to that) anyone can go fast in a straight line correct ?
    Came to a realisation that i want/are going, to go faster and faster so being the wise ol fool i am, i'm presently on tard me ATM buying a van and searching for a track/race bike (failing that i will be tearing the lights off one of the triples, whacking clip ons on it and commiting it)

    Before i become one of your statistics !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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    I have only given the data a quick read, they way I enturperate it is that the greatest age group at risk is the over 40s, and those riding larger Motor cycles, so my geuss is that this is not so much those who have been riding most of their lives but those who have returned to riding after a number of years away from riding bikes, ie the 40 somthing that can afford to go out and buy a new sports bike of large capacity, that may have owned their last bike 15 to 20 yrs previously, 1970s or 80s technology, probably has forgotten more than they remember about riding, reactions and automatic motor responces, and how quick things can go to custard at +200 kmph.
    Now dont think that I am knocking older riders, I am one. what I do suggest is the older rider who has just returned to the fold, after a 10 or more year break, is sent on a refresher course, the prime example I can think of is a newbi that sighned on a couple of weeks ago that had just brought a big shiny new Ducati, and his last bike was a 1970s honda XL 175, that he last rode 25 yrs ago.
    It could be worth pushing advanced rider courses to these returnies to the fold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinfull View Post
    Came to a realisation that i want/are going, to go faster and faster so being the wise ol fool i am, i'm presently on tard me ATM buying a van and searching for a track/race bike (failing that i will be tearing the lights off one of the triples, whacking clip ons on it and commiting it)

    Before i become one of your statistics !
    Wise man.
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    The stats say it all. When i feel myself getting cocky,going to fast etc ,I just think how i dont want to be a statistic on a government chart. It works. zYou should see some of the machines the "over 40 ,havent riden for years" set are buying up here. Serious bikes its scary

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    Exactly why, when returning to biking after 25 years, I went for a 400, then a 535. Next will prolly be a 650 or thereabouts.

    I shudder when I see peeps coming off their learners upgrading to litre sprotsbikes.
    Last edited by Daffyd; 18th November 2008 at 21:45. Reason: Another comment.
    "Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."

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    Maybe the drop in 15-24 age-group deaths has something to do with the cheaper cars that are available.
    Wonder if there's a corresponding increase in that age-group in car deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Maybe the drop in 15-24 age-group deaths has something to do with the cheaper cars that are available.
    Wonder if there's a corresponding increase in that age-group in car deaths.
    Exactly what I was thinking.
    "Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."

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