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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Interesting fact: That ship contained the oil for 1/3 of the world's DAILY use. Wow.

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    i think it was a third of the saudi daily output

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    Oh hurray. The NZ media has finally caught up with what else is going on around the world which doesn't involve a little oval ball...

    This has been going on for a damned long time, people!

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    Wasn't there some New Zealand guy killed by pirates once? And he even had a gun - must of been a pretty useless shot if he let some ignorant natives get the better of him.I reckon you sharp dudes ort to hire yourselfs out as mercinaries on oil tankers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    Wasn't there some New Zealand guy killed by pirates once? And he even had a gun - must of been a pretty useless shot if he let some ignorant natives get the better of him.I reckon you sharp dudes ort to hire yourselfs out as mercinaries on oil tankers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    I reckon you sharp dudes ort to hire yourselfs out as mercinaries on oil tankers.
    Won't work - the robbing pricks that own the oil and the tankers don't want any competition...

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    I do not understand why the various navies of the world do not just simply sort them out. An oil tanker can hardly be hidden in this age of satellites. And I cannot conceive that the pirates can have armament in the league of the USN , or even the RN.

    A cruiser and a couple of destroyers with an escort carrier for air cover, and it should be good night nurse for the pirates.

    I am sure Nelson would have have hestitated. They need to call Maggie Thatcher back, she'd have them sorted out in less time than it took her to find her handbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I do not understand why the various navies of the world do not just simply sort them out.

    A cruiser and a couple of destroyers with an escort carrier for air cover, and it should be good night nurse for the pirates.
    They already are. It is quite surprising that there are quite a few navies co-operating on this issue, even to the extent that Russian vessels are assisting Brit and US warships.

    The nothern coastline of Skinnyland is heavily policed and it is of interest that this "capture" happened well away from that part of the world, in what was presumably seen as a "safe place" as the ship had cleared the danger area and headed for the Cape of Good Hope.

    If the gloves come off, then the skinnies might be dealt with in a more "appropriate" manner... one befitting pirates.

    One thinks that they have gone a step too far with this capture. "Undue attention" and all that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I do not understand why the various navies of the world do not just simply sort them out.
    Maybe it would create more than a small problem if the pirates or whoever decide to sink the ship just to say "fuck you".
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    They'd only do it once. Sod patrols. Sink the buggers. They need boats to get out to the ships. And the ships themselves can certainly be found by satellite. So, trace the boats back to whereever they go back to. Stand off shore, and lay down broadside fire for a few hours. End of pirate problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    They'd only do it once. Sod patrols. Sink the buggers. They need boats to get out to the ships. And the ships themselves can certainly be found by satellite. So, trace the boats back to whereever they go back to. Stand off shore, and lay down broadside fire for a few hours. End of pirate problem.

    Meh, if you want a job donw well, you need to do it yourself. Someone loan me a battleship, and I'll sort them out.
    Only do it once? Theres millions of dollars in it for people who would (and historically have) kill each other for food.

    I had a little birdy (actually 2 birdys, one crew member, one "extra") tell me years back that at least one team of somalian pirates were dealt to severely. These guys are not going to stop doing this for as long as the money is there.

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    "They'd" only do it (it being to sink a ship to say "fuck you" ) once, cos a pirate blown to kingdom come ain't going to do nothing again.

    'S simple. They need boats to reach the ships. Track the boats to whereever they lurk. Send naval ships to bombard the boats, wharves, jetties villages and such like . Boats blown up and sunk, pirates dead, problem solved. Sheesh , Palmerston would have had it solved in a few weeks. Too much ponsy pussy footing around.
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    I think it would be an effective way to stop piracy by putting armed guards on the ships, it would defo be cheaper than paying a US$2m in ransom. But there are too many obstacles- 1. As has been said, UN would not be happy 2. Ports probably wouldn't allow ships with small arms to birth 3. Increase chances of innocent lives lost 4. Countries would not allow their ships to have small arms onboard ships flying their flag.

    I think they need to be escorted by their own countries navies.

    I thought those ships had some thick arse metal doors to the outside that they could lock up, why leave it all open just inviting the pirates in.

    The pirates do look pretty bogan lol
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    We should offer them our airforce for protection ...we can send in our 2 airforce stealth hot air balloons and some guys with paint ball guns to scare them pirates awayor better still we sell the pirates our mothballed skyhawks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I do not understand why the various navies of the world do not just simply sort them out. An oil tanker can hardly be hidden in this age of satellites. And I cannot conceive that the pirates can have armament in the league of the USN , or even the RN.

    A cruiser and a couple of destroyers with an escort carrier for air cover, and it should be good night nurse for the pirates.

    I am sure Nelson would have have hestitated. They need to call Maggie Thatcher back, she'd have them sorted out in less time than it took her to find her handbag.
    The pirates don't hide the ships.

    They bring explosives on board and ransom the ships back to their owners.

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