Police news release - "Matching rider skills to their bikes"

[Beemer]

Given the recent propensity for police officers to cause crashes, no few of them injuring motorcyclists in the process, one could suggest that the youth and inexperience (not to mention immaturity ?) of the average police officer does not match the size and power of their police cars?

I'd be inclined to agree with you there. I don't know the age you can become a cop (no interest in the job myself) but if it's say 18, then someone could be a very inexperienced driver if they joined not long after gaining their full licence. They are then put into situations where they could be involved in a chase situation or just getting to an incident in a hurry and those cop cars are not Morrie Minors! I remember on the Targa rally a few years ago when a cop overshot a corner when acting as a zero car (I think) and went into a ditch. Not to mention the cop who was seriously injured while doing a training run on a bike out the back of Wairarapa. He was going too fast for the conditions and crashed, causing injuries that ended his police career before it started.

I think this needs further investigation for riders and drivers. If someone is returning to motorcycling after an absence of more than five years, perhaps some form of graduated licence system is warranted. Or, even better, how about people learn what their limits are and ride within them until their skills match their bike's capabilities?

[Katman]

why feel guilty...you choose...that's your right...good on a...

Choose what? To endanger someone else's life?

It's his right?????

WTF?

The motorcyclist who's arm was ripped off and landed in the driver's lap on the weekend - was it his "right" to impose a lifetime of nightmares upon that woman who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

[wbks]

will you shut the fuck up I've already said how sorry I was for it and would have apoligised to the guy if I saw him again and it was something I did as a very inexperienced rider.

[slimjim]

yes indeed...courts seem to think that a vehicle driven into a crowd is worth....What...Sweet fuck all...no eye for a eye is there...so yes its his right to choose..

[Katman]

yes indeed...courts seem to think that a vehicle driven into a crowd is worth....What...Sweet fuck all...no eye for a eye is there...so yes its his right to choose..

Well that's some pretty fucked up logic.

Who gives a fuck what the courts think? It's what we, as individuals, think is morally and ethically 'our right' that really matters.

[slimjim]

what......now i know your been foolish....we...sorry only one person sit's and gives judgement in court...yet we as individuals think he or she has been soft-hearted over a death.is that morally.or even ethically right..humm...so were is we when judgement is given..no as individuals one may think as others yet still do differently..

[Katman]

what......now i know your been foolish....we...sorry only one person sit's and gives judgement in court...yet we as individuals think he or she has been soft-hearted over a death.is that morally.or even ethically right..humm...so were is we when judgement is given..no as individuals one may think as others yet still do differently..

I can't even understand your posts.

[pritch]

Often the equation goes: "In 1978, when I was 20, I sold my last bike, a CB500 Honda, so now as I turn 50, I'll get a CBR600 (because I can afford it."

I know of one such locally. He bought a much bigger bike than a CBR600 but probably no more powerful. When his wife told me of the purchase I offered some reading material I thought might be helpful to a born again rider.
"No thanks, he'll figure it out."

I mumbled something about having one third of a second on average to "figure it out..."

So in about one week flat (might have been two) he chucks it up the road.
I guess he's figured one thing out now then...

[wbks]

I can't even understand your posts.

Don't read, just skip a step and accuse him of consuming infants for breakfast

[slimjim]

will you shut the fuck up I've already said how sorry I was for it and would have apoligised to the guy if I saw him again and it was something I did as a very inexperienced rider.

lad.....you have learned a lesson in riding...that's more important.and you understood how easy it is too(cross over line)....the rider gave you the "Look"....all said and done..

[wbks]

Yes but it seems katman would still like to give me a lecture. But I'm sure this post will act as the garlic necklace and make him prove me wrong by not giving me one.

[slimjim]

Yes but it seems katman would still like to give me a lecture. But I'm sure this post will act as the garlic necklace and make him prove me wrong by not giving me one.

hahaha..... well that's loness for ya...
an...what the fuck...life is short...

smile...think as him as your "Dear Old Grandad"..

[discotex]

Interesting... So the total ACC claims for motorcyclists is lower than the amount a SINGLE health board could save if they paid their bills on time....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10545910

So why are we paying a higher ACC levy for bike registrations?

[more_fasterer]

I believe this single sentence says as much about the riders as the entire remainder of the news item. This small piece of the country comprising less than 4% of the country's entire road network is responsible for 50% of all motorcycling injury accidents.

Don't blame the road, look at why so many riders go to this one area, and connect the dots. Coro GP perhaps?

Yet another bullshit statistic from the police claims a free-thinking mind. You don't seriously believe that figure do you? Surely that would mean that of all the "rider down" and "R.I.P" threads on here, every second one (on average) would be for that location??

[mstriumph]

some older riders need a reality check when they return to bikes after 30-odd years out of the saddle. its stuff like that that makes me avoid riding with ulysses at all times. .........

i'm not saying you are wrong, sunhuntin, but in all fairness you didn't take the arguement far enough

......... there are arrogant, dangerous nitwits in ALL age groups ... it would be helpful if they were all confined to one group [like ulysses] but, in my experience, there are no more of them in that group than there are in any other ....