The RS250

[wbks]

im not talking about reliabilty, im talking about the experience of being able to manage the sometime unexpected kick of a powerband, wether it be on a 2-stroke MXer, or a 2-stroke road bike. for a complete learner having the powerband kick in mid corner (or anywhere for that matter) unexpectedly can be a pants shitting experience.

I guess so. The trick is to ride the bike IN the powerband all the time, that way you avoid the sudden kick...Its there all the time

[Squiggles]

What are you comparing them to, papermashe gp bikes?

40hrs on a roadbike would be sfa.

[wbks]

Comparing them to fourstroke inline 4's like the zxr. I've only needed to ever change the cam tensioner on my zxer. Can't argue with all the bikes on trademe(rgvs/nsrs) with collapsed skirts and shit like that

[imdying]

Comparing them to fourstroke inline 4's like the zxr. I've only needed to ever change the cam tensioner on my zxer. Can't argue with all the bikes on trademe(rgvs/nsrs) with collapsed skirts and shit like that

Badly maintained and/or screwed to death != poor reliability

A ZXR250 is slow as a wet week, so of course it'll take a lot more neglect.

Speed costs.

[wbks]

40hrs on a roadbike would be sfa.

If you're talking about how I said two stroke mx bikes are reliable and only need rebuilding every 40 ours and you think its wrong then have you ridden mx bikes much? Reved to the limiter from semi cold for hours on end constantly over revving in the air takes the life out of a bike faster then it sounds at 40 hours. Thats about 14 weekend rides of hard riding at the mx track

[wbks]

Badly maintained and/or screwed to death != poor reliability

A ZXR250 is slow as a wet week, so of course it'll take a lot more neglect.

Speed costs.

Slow compared to a gp replica. Yes, speed does cost. But most rs/nsr/rgv/tzr 250s have been badly maintained and screwed to death! From memory only about two ive seen have been imported from japan without big drop marks or suspiciously new looking left or right side fairings. And if you ask most of them the last time they replaced the crank or even top end, some times even what psi they are running in their tires and they will not have a clue and just say " runs fine mate"

[imdying]

None of which points to poor reliablity, only poor maintenance.

[wbks]

You said poor maintanance and thrashed to death equal poor reliability----Most of them would equal poor reliability...But hey, I'm just jelous I can't afford one, cause I'd jump at the chance to own a nice nsr!

[nosebleed]

To the OP: you're in Akl so pop into Mt Eden Motorcycles and have a look. they'd be keen to get you on one, but I'm pretty sure after talking with you in person they'd establish wether or not 'its the bike for you'.
Since they deal in Kwaka as well you could back-to-back the test ride with one of those.
The other option if the RS250 is too 'mean'...would be to try the RS125, they'd still be a great peppy bike
Your own background/experience would be the best decider.

Go see them (and they're open Sunday too now)

How was that Selby, did I say that right?, was that everything you wanted to say?...

[Rych]

To the OP: you're in Akl so pop into Mt Eden Motorcycles and have a look. they'd be keen to get you on one, but I'm pretty sure after talking with you in person they'd establish wether or not 'its the bike for you'.
Since they deal in Kwaka as well you could back-to-back the test ride with one of those.
The other option if the RS250 is too 'mean'...would be to try the RS125, they'd still be a great peppy bike
Your own background/experience would be the best decider.

Go see them (and they're open Sunday too now)

How was that Selby, did I say that right?, was that everything you wanted to say?...

Hey cheers that might be a good idea! I just want something that is faster than my car if its going to weigh a 10th of the weight lol... :P

[imdying]

You said poor maintanance and thrashed to death equal poor reliability

!= means 'not equal to'

[wbks]

Never heard that before!

[imdying]

Try learning some C

[wbks]

Once again, you've lost me. Whats C?

[imdying]

Doesn't matter, it's not relevant.

Speed costs.

Big bikes with a lot of power eat the driveline, little bikes with a lot of power need more frequent rebuilds.