Abolish 70kph learners rule

[Jantar]

the 70kmh rule is definately required, most learners couldn't successfully navigate a 70km/h corner at 100km/h. ......

Oh. I wasn't aware that motorcyclists had to be able to navigate a 70kmh at 100 kmh. I always thought they should be learning to read the road and determine how best to navigate the corner without concentrating on any particular speed.

Maybe you don't actually realize that if you are in a 100 kmh area, that doesn't mean you must ride at 100 kmh all the time. A lower speed is perfectly acceptable if conditions warrant it.

[Jantar]

See. Classic example. Speed maniac, starting out directly on a large capacity fast bike. Whereas sensible folk like me started on a 125cc Beeza Bantam with a top speed of 40mph.

I refuse to believe that any Bantam could only do a max of 40 mph. Every single one I've ever ridden had the ports polished, the head ground for higher compression and basically modified in every way possible.

[Ixion]

Oh yes. Once I finshed hacking it , it could do 60mph. Sometimes. You didn't need to grind the head, though, just hacksaw a bit off.

[FJRider]

There is a huge huge difference between someone who is still learning to ride and someone on their learner license.

I'm still learning... How come you know so much...

[FJRider]

Cynical old crackpot indeed.

But he has survived to be a cynical OLD crackpot... Read my sig.

[FJRider]

So how did you learn?

On a Kawasaki 100 (Hi/low gearbox) Restricted to 50 kms/hr (learners)till my full. Still riding the 100 then. Was lucky to reach the open road limit without a following breeze. Thats all I had... so I rode it. Toured the south island on it. Trucks weren't as big then...just seemed like it.

[FJRider]

Oh. I wasn't aware that motorcyclists had to be able to navigate a 70kmh at 100 kmh. I always thought they should be learning to read the road and determine how best to navigate the corner without concentrating on any particular speed.

Maybe you don't actually realize that if you are in a 100 kmh area, that doesn't mean you must ride at 100 kmh all the time. A lower speed is perfectly acceptable if conditions warrant it.

Keeping to 70 kms/hr on a learners... on a 250 cc, is about as difficult as keeping to 100 kms/hr on a full... on a 1200 cc ... you know you want to, you know you can... just not allowed...

[Roki_nz]

Seem to remember something about LTSA looking to move to new restrictions based on the aussie one which includes getting rid of the 70km/h rule.

Proposed changes
http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/...Safety-RIS.pdf

From thread:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=70332

Thanks for thoses links

Do you know if anyone has heard anything offical from the LTSA recently regarding the proposed changes

[mister.koz]

Govt tends to move slowly on stuff tho. I heard from somewhere "late 09" but i can't confirm where sorry.

[Slyer]

I'm liking the bits in that pdf

[mister.koz]

Yeah looks quite sensible.

[archie-no2]

Hi thanks for your comments

I emailed the minister for transport a month ago but have not had any reply.
Phil Goff lives not to far from me do you think it is worth talking to him about it?

[Slyer]

Take a hostage with you if possible.

[EatOrBeEaten]

took the m-way home from New Lynn to Panmure last night- fuck 70kph for a laugh! I felt vulnerable and unsafe, the Southern motorway is no place to be sitting outside the flow of traffic O_O.

I stuck the 70 limit as much as I could, but there were several times when the speed limit was the safe limit. I'd rather have a fine than my brains splattered all over the hard shoulder....

[roy.nz]

Mate when i was a learner and restricted licence holder the only time i had my L plates on was when i went to go for my next licence. I hated the 70kph rule so i never followed it always kept to 100kph and luckly never got caught. I think alllearners should be allowed to go the true speed limit to make things safer for everyone.