Checkpoints. Waddaya do?

[Patrick]

Me and my mate stood on both sides of the Birkenhead checkpoint on. Tuesday I think it was. Or something. Outside NW, holding up signs that said "COPS AROUND CORNER". A fair amount of thumbs ups were had, I felt good.

You must be so pleased with yourself. You support drink drivers ay? What about mobile "P" labs? Car loads of stolen goods from the neighbourhood burglaries too? Awesome...

I wouldn't warn drivers that breath testing was around the corner... I'd hate to be riding around with drunk-drivers more than anybody else. I think someone's life is worth more than a taxi fare home if you're on the piss.

Bloody oath. Shit drivers out there as it is, let alone shit drivers who are pissed too....

absolutely f@#kin BRILLIANT

The copper totally anti-climaxed when I told him(or..her?) Ive only had one can and couldnt be arsed going thru your bullshit checkpoint.
You should have seen his face when he realised I was not at all the drunken fuckwit he was expecting.
Ya know...if anyone posed a threat to the general public it was he, not I.
He must have been hittin' 90kmh down a narrow suburban street (with little kiddies playing on the grass verge) to CATCH UP with me, the innocent motorcyclist riding peacefully at 52kmh down the street.
My CRIME?????

doing a u-turn....WHOOOOAHHHHHHH!!!!!
yes folks, a motorcyclist turned.....and went back the way he was heading
Upshot was..he told me not to drink any more grog tonight, because the machine indicated I was a NAUGHTY boy lol! PML hahhhahahahah!!
FAILED YOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

yep, thats me Scumdog, a failed youth, OMG how will I ever live that judgement down? huh??
so you and your cronies should go away and think about that, he put innocent childrens lives in danger because he thought(assumed) I was over the legal limit of alcomohol per blood unit.
Assumption is the mother of all ?????????? what??????????
Im over it now, cheers for listenin to my rant.

So... a failed youth reading means you were on the piss, and riding a motorbike too. Winner. I bet ya it was more than the quoted "one." It always is...

Believe or not your driveway is by legal definition a "public road" and the drink/drive laws apply just as much in your driveway as they do on the street. If the officer believes you are over the limit (or you're getting too cheeky or annoying) you can be asked to provide an evidential breath test, and if failed, charge you with DIC. Ignorance of the law will not be an allowable defence.

You gotta watch those jolly japes - what starts out a bit of silly fun can turn real nasty real quick if you strike the wrong person

Not quite. A driveway is not a road, it is expressly excluded. A cop can, however, follow a driver onto private property to breath test ya.. Refuse at will - you will then be required to accompany. Refuse that, you get locked up.

Sooooooo...what happened to the 'innocent until PROVEN guilty' part of the law?
or is it 'until ASSUMED guilty'? because I turned around I was instantly proving my own guilt? So the police become judge, jury, and EXECUTIONER on the side of the road huh?
When I blew in to his device it came back ok.
Imagine if he had run over one of those little kids on the side of the road....and for what?? a guy on a bike who was merely turning around to avoid the checkpoint because he hates talking to police due to prior bad experiences, and was sober anyway....
does that justify that copper putting lives in jeopardy..cause I 'acted in a suspicious manner'?
Think hard about this one people, or does the end justify the means, even if innocents die!
As he was getting back into his unmarked police Commodore (bright red)
I said to him, "Hey, it wasn't worth the chase was it? but at least you got your adrenaline fix today I s'pose"
He glared at me with a typical shortman syndrome pissed off look.
I went home happy, and had a beer

What happened to - go to the checkpoint, pass the test and carry on, coz you had done nothing wrong? Your guilty conscience got to you, and turning away from a checkpoint usually means one thing. Something to hide. If there was nothi9ng to hide, YOU instigated a pursuit. For what? So you could get YOUR jollies?

How would he have known you from the guy who had had six pints too many and had turned around to avoid the checkpoint because he was way over the limit?

Spot on. Only one way to find out. And the one who turns is solely the cause of it all......

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines.

You have to be joking, right? No one gets drunk on Tuesday, especially while it is still light????

You lead a VERY sheltered life.

I have stopped drunks at 9am, 11am, 1.30pm, 3pm recently... let alone throughout the last 23 years..... "Any time, any place" is for a reason. Pissheads are out there, any time, any place.....

[buellbabe]

Agree with ya there Patrick except i am a bit confused about the 'failed youth' reading.

I have also blown a 'failed youth' at a checkpoint. (just read that and realised how rude it sounds HAHAHA HA). As I said in my earlier post. I'd had ONE glass on wine with food. And YES it was only one.
I was not intoxicated in the slightest and the only reasoning I can come up with is that I had only just swallowed the last drop before getting on the bike and riding from Paeroa to Ngatea...a pretty short distance...

[Patrick]

Agree with ya there Patrick except i am a bit confused about the 'failed youth' reading.

I have also blown a 'failed youth' at a checkpoint. (just read that and realised how rude it sounds HAHAHA HA). As I said in my earlier post. I'd had ONE glass on wine with food. And YES it was only one.
I was not intoxicated in the slightest and the only reasoning I can come up with is that I had only just swallowed the last drop before getting on the bike and riding from Paeroa to Ngatea...a pretty short distance...

On the rare occasions that this is the case, yes, a fresh quaffe can show high results. A fail youth result means the breath level is between 150 and 400mcgs per litre of breath. If you were under 20 years old, it would be an offence.

If it was the one wine only, by the time you got back to the station for an evidential test, it would not be such a problem and the result would be low. If it was at the booze bus, a blood test would show that the blood level was far lower than the breath test given. If you follow me....???

[Ragingrob]

On the rare occasions that this is the case, yes, a fresh quaffe can show high results. A fail youth result means the breath level is between 150 and 400mcgs per litre of breath. If you were under 20 years old, it would be an offence.

If it was the one wine only, by the time you got back to the station for an evidential test, it would not be such a problem and the result would be low. If it was at the booze bus, a blood test would show that the blood level was far lower than the breath test given. If you follow me....???

That's a good point there thanks Patrick!

[buellbabe]

Interesting...so basically even if you do just have the one drink you should let some time pass...

Good to know, especially with silly season upon us, in fact I will be having a glass of wine after work today (maybe two), but we always get a big food platter as well (O'Hagans in the Viaduct, they do good platters!).

[Patrick]

Interesting...so basically even if you do just have the one drink you should let some time pass...

Good to know, especially with silly season upon us, in fact I will be having a glass of wine after work today (maybe two), but we always get a big food platter as well (O'Hagans in the Viaduct, they do good platters!).

As long as it is the one glass, not the one keg... a little time is good as the breath level will sort itself out... unless it is the keg, then you're fooked.

One glass shouldn't even register if you're having food too....

[Blackshear]

In light of all the completely understandable hate on me, I will draw a picture in Paint, and take according pictures. I'm not implying I should be apologized to, that's just silly. BADD saves lives. I know this.

It was funny because there was nowhere for them to turn off ha ha. And yes, honest to god, not one single person deviated from the 'through New World' road whilst we were there. Gimmie an hour.
Sorry guys.

[Blackshear]

In light of all the completely understandable hate on me, I will draw a picture in Paint, and take according pictures. I'm not implying I should be apologized to, that's just silly. BADD saves lives. I know this.

It was funny because there was nowhere for them to turn off ha ha. And yes, honest to god, not one single person deviated from the 'through New World' road whilst we were there. Gimmie an hour.
Sorry guys.

Ok, can't connect the fucking phone to the computer, what a POS smartphone. Perhaps not intended for me, smartphone, me smart... Lol hur hur. Anyway.

Hopefully this clarifies a little.
We wrote on carboard with black vivid, at around 10:30pm.

I wont do it again, I knew something was amiss when I did, but didn't quite click...

[speights_bud]

You are an idiot.

No-one's going to be drunk on a Tuesday, especially while it's still light enough to stand around with a sign.

Blackshear would've been getting thumbs up for saving people from the stupid $200 no wof/reg fines.

Bullshit, i got pulled over for 'following too closely' on my 125 scooter in a 100km/h zone, it was 4:08pm on a Tuesday and the officer had a client in his front seat that had blown 3 TIMES the legal limit.

[Elysium]

Sure were a lot of police cars on SH1 between Taupo and Palmerston North today. Funny thing is they didnt seem interested in me doing 110-120kmh and noticed they flashed their headights at drivers who were traveling too fast. I assume they only stoped the really fast drivers.

[munterk6]

The thing that pisses me off about the traffic laws is the inconsistencies and here is an example...
A guy on a bike does a u-turn before a checkpoint(for whatever reason, not because he feels 'GUILTY', he may have suddenly remembered he left the oven on with a pot of oil to cook up some chips) and the cops assume he has something to hide...like hes pissed as a maggot for instance. So they chase him down, even though hes done NOTHING ILLEGAL.
right in ya face when you dont need em.

... but on the other side of the coin....
A woman rings her ex-hubby and makes a covert threat shes gonna do him in in the next day or two. He rings the cops coz hes shitting himself knowing full well that shes well capable of it coz shes held a knife up to his throat in the past. The cop on the other end of the phone says..."sorry mate, we cant go and arrest her..she hasnt done anything illegal and you have no proof she threatened to kill you. She then drives past his place a few times and rings his phone repeatedly. Same answer.."Sorry mate, shes done nothing illegal"
Next day the police are investigating a homicide.
...never there when you need em.

So on one hand the police are powerless to act, but on the other, they are all over the bike guy's ass because he looked suspicious doing the u-turn.

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why? Can our resident scum(dog) explain? or is he only allowed to know about the mysteries of traffic law being a lowly member of the gestapo lol!

mmmmm....funny old world we live in eh.

[carver]

You let the cop catch you up? If you were Carver, you'd have thrown a wheelstand, then thrown the now empty bottle of JD's at them...

how did you know?
the JD's is just a diversion

[scumdog]

The thing that pisses me off about the traffic laws is the inconsistencies and here is an example...
A guy on a bike does a u-turn before a checkpoint(for whatever reason, not because he feels 'GUILTY', he may have suddenly remembered he left the oven on with a pot of oil to cook up some chips) and the cops assume he has something to hide...like hes pissed as a maggot for instance. So they chase him down, even though hes done NOTHING ILLEGAL.
right in ya face when you dont need em.

... but on the other side of the coin....
A woman rings her ex-hubby and makes a covert threat shes gonna do him in in the next day or two. He rings the cops coz hes shitting himself knowing full well that shes well capable of it coz shes held a knife up to his throat in the past. The cop on the other end of the phone says..."sorry mate, we cant go and arrest her..she hasnt done anything illegal and you have no proof she threatened to kill you. She then drives past his place a few times and rings his phone repeatedly. Same answer.."Sorry mate, shes done nothing illegal"
Next day the police are investigating a homicide.
...never there when you need em.

So on one hand the police are powerless to act, but on the other, they are all over the bike guy's ass because he looked suspicious doing the u-turn.

So is traffic law different than non-traffic law? and if so, why? Can our resident scum(dog) explain? or is he only allowed to know about the mysteries of traffic law being a lowly member of the gestapo lol!

mmmmm....funny old world we live in eh.

So if somebody phoned up and said "I've just seen munter6 dive off around the corner" you would expect a cop to come ripping along and pull you up - even if he never saw you himself?

Just to be consistent with the way you would expect them to act as per your first example.

OH, and I wonder how you 'know' all the 'facts' in that first example??

[roy.nz]

Id say thanks for that chase down, because i love your red and blues. Then most probally be done on some made up charge because i pissed them off.

[scumdog]

Id say thanks for that chase down, because i love your red and blues. Then most probally be done on some made up charge because i pissed them off.

The fuzz up your way must get pissed off a whole lot easier than they do down here then....