Car vs Bike - 1098 vs GT-R

[lostinflyz]

one of the truly deceptive things in that test was the fact it was still damp. On top gear they say 4 seconds per car. on a bike id wager at least 10 seconds like that.

theres always argument in these comparisons. such is the nature of the testing really.

[vifferman]

Was just reading in a magazine that Ducati are looking at developing an ABS system for the front wheel to help with braking in corners.

Far out! Whatever will they think of next?

[noobi]

I wonder if they tested a GTR with twice the hp and less weight whether it would be so destroyed on the straights? probably would be, but alot less I would think. Then also less weight means it could brake even deeper into the corners.
What is the point of comparing them again?

[davebullet]

The point being the faster something is around a track, the more enjoyable it must be.... By their logic, a commercial jet would be faster than both a bike and car, so the commercial jet must be the most enjoyable way to travel

[DELLORTO]

that guy wasnt the best rider anyhow.....

[Gremlin]

Cars always have bigger contact patches, always have, always will. Acceleration is also a given... sheer power to weight.

What is interesting tho, is braking. Tiff in a Honda vs some cbr, it was pointed out in that test that the bike was winning in braking and acceleration, but not mid corner. (iirc)

However, lean a bike over, and your contact patch just got a whole lot smaller.

Good fun to watch, but each to their own. Bike is still more fun, for less dollars.

[johan]

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Was just reading in a magazine that Ducati are looking at developing an ABS system for the front wheel to help with braking in corners. This is one area where bikes can improve on a lot.

I think the Ducati ST has ABS system already. But probably a lot different from what they might put on a superbike?

[roy.nz]

Thats all good that the car is a quicker round the whole track but what i love about biking is the exit on the last bit of clip where the bike totaled the car with ease. Bikes rule

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

anyone know what the A1GP's were lapping at Taupo??? could be interesting to compare those times with fastest F1 club racers. Probabley not alot in it (maybe A1's by a nose).

I know superbikes go faster than V8 super tourers at Puke

[johan]

Here are a few results

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=273913

[vtec]

one of the truly deceptive things in that test was the fact it was still damp. On top gear they say 4 seconds per car. on a bike id wager at least 10 seconds like that.

theres always argument in these comparisons. such is the nature of the testing really.

I totally agree, bikes are affected much more by the wet than cars. On a dry day, would be completely different.

[CHOPPA]

anyone know what the A1GP's were lapping at Taupo??? could be interesting to compare those times with fastest F1 club racers. Probabley not alot in it (maybe A1's by a nose).

I know superbikes go faster than V8 super tourers at Puke

The A1 gp cars are about 20 secs faster...

[Ocean1]

The A1 gp cars are about 20 secs faster...

Yup, seriously quick.

Similar power/mass ratio but far more rubber down and huge downforce.

[jrandom]

anyone know what the A1GP's were lapping at Taupo??? could be interesting to compare those times with fastest F1 club racers. Probabley not alot in it (maybe A1's by a nose).

a1gp.com says the A1GP lap record at Taupo is 1:14. Good luck getting anything on two wheels round Taupo that quick!

Another comparison: the A1GP lap record at Brno is 1:47. Casey Stoner set the MotoGP lap record there this year - 1.56.

Four wheels are faster than two.

Still way more boring though.

[BM-GS]

UK mag BiKE did a CBR6 v Lotus a year (or 2) ago. Full datalogging employed to see where the advantages actually lay. Both vehicles did about the same lap time, but made their time up at different places. Car into corners, bike on way out, as you'd expect. Bike could straightline a chicane too, which the car had to slow for.

Bike had a journo on, car had the Lotus test driver, which probably made it a bit easier for the car.

Downforce is a tricky thing for bikes to overcome, it caught out a certain V. Rossi when he took a spin in a Ferrari and he was slow in the corners til he got a few pointers on exactly how much faster he could go. More speed = more downforce = more grip = more speed, etc.

This argument is kinda academic, no argument which is more fun...