Dehydration

[yungatart]

Timely thread!

Last weekend the HB crew did a ride around Lake Taupo. I think every one of us had a water bottle on board...we are used to the heat down here!

[Owl]

You didn't necessarily black out prior to the crash.
It's not unusual to be unable to recall the last few seconds prior to a traumatic event.

I get what you're saying Pixie and a GP said the same, but it's like I woke up at the corner, thought "Oh fuck" and then whammo. I know that corner, knew it was there, it's an easy corner, conditions were perfect and yet I still failed to go around it!
Sorry for the rant, but I'm still pissed off with myself!

[gijoe1313]

Ayup, this is a valuable thread - on my sojourns and meanderings of a random nature, I will happily forgo food, but never my liquid intake. Fluids are vital to keep body running at optimum performance.

After all, we make sure our bikes are topped up with the fluids they require - and woe betide us if we lapse on those levels right?

Same with our mortal encasements of flesh.

In fact, when its raining, I always enjoy it, I flip the visor up and lap up the water! And you can even keep your protein levels up by eating the bugs that land in your teeth! I find the honey bees much better for dessert, midges for snacks and dragonflies have a piquant taste.

Try it one day, I guarantee you will be surprised!

(No, I am not turning into the Bear Grylls of biking )

Water sorted. Snacks on the road sorted.

[dpex]

I've learnt something else today. Glad I don't get that, as I have enough problems with my foot, though I have had a few people ask me how my gout is when they've seen me walking.

Yeah, me too. In fact with both feet. They keep getting stuck in my mouth.

[dpex]

A VERY old racer addage is . "drink till ya pee clear"
Chocky fish for who can name the very famous racer that used that phrase.

For me racing If i don't need a pee before every race I know I ant drinking enough. I prefer the flavoured water but its a taste thing

Whaddaya mean, "It's a taste thing?" You haven't got any taste! I'll bet the world doesn't know you're panting to become a Honda Rider. I think I'll tell the world about this.

Taste, indeed! Hurumph.

[dpex]

Not quite true- if your heavily sweating for only a matter of hours you only need plain water, if your sweating heavily for days on end you need suppliments or at least salt tablets. Work up a sweat, let it dry and lick your skin - you loose a LOT of salt through your sweat. You'll find you get low blood pressure symptoms - dizziness and tiredness from salt deprivation.

You make a good point. In fact I make a habit; at track and race-days, at least, of adding a pinch of ordinary iodized salt to each litre of water. That gives me both salt and iodine.

Saline!

It's also great to pour into your eye which has been poked by someone trying to establish if you're dead or not.

[wbks]

You drink salt water? FREAK!

[klingon]

The best (and simplest) oral rehydration recipe is:
8 teaspoons of sugar
1 teaspoon of salt
1 litre of water

Dissolve the sugar and salt in the water and sip often.

If you're going to drink fruit juice, you're best to dilute the juice 50/50 with water. You can also mix 50/50 juice and the oral reydration fluid above (improves the flavour of both, IMO!)

This is a very useful subject to remind ourselves of at this time of year.

[trumpy]

Well that's seriously given me something to think about dpex, more than you know!

I had a bin back in April that I cannot explain and have no excuse for. I pass the site on a fairly regular basis, give myself a kick and think “How did you fuck that up?” I can't say dehydration was the cause, but what you describe does give “Food for thought”! All I know are the facts!

I remember the actual crash, but have no memory of the 1.5km leading up to it (actually measured from last memory). I did thump my head and suffered mild concussion, but that doesn’t explain why my brain shut down beforehand, causing the crash. I even considered the possibility that I’d fallen asleep, but I think it unlikely I would’ve negotiated the previous two bends during that 1.5km?

1. It was a nice warm sunny day.
2. I hadn’t had anything to drink all afternoon (though I wasn’t thirsty).
3. I was wearing black leathers.
4. My last drink late morning was coffee.
5. Time of crash approximately 3.50pm.

I’d love to turn back the clock, but this is something I have to own, get over and move on! The worst thing is not being able to learn from mistakes when you only have questions and no answers. At least now I may have an answer!

Cheers dpex!

Exact same experience 12 months ago. Apparently a cup of coffee and a glass of orange juice doesn't cut it riding for an hour or five in 27 degrees especially when you haven't fully recovered from being dehydrated the previous day. My stupid, never to be repeated (hopefully....but then I do sometimes forget things..)

[wbks]

The best (and simplest) oral rehydration recipe is:
8 teaspoons of sugar
1 teaspoon of salt
1 litre of water

Dissolve the sugar and salt in the water and sip often.

If you're going to drink fruit juice, you're best to dilute the juice 50/50 with water. You can also mix 50/50 juice and the oral reydration fluid above (improves the flavour of both, IMO!)

This is a very useful subject to remind ourselves of at this time of year.

By saying ORAL, are you saying you know of a rectal re hydration technique?

[klingon]

By saying ORAL, are you saying you know of a rectal re hydration technique?

Errr... actually an intravenous technique but you know... whatever floats your boat...

[sinfull]

By saying ORAL, are you saying you know of a rectal re hydration technique?

I used to use that one on my ex when she'd complain of a headache ! Crushed disprin on the knob ! Orally or rectally, i didn't care how she took it !

[firefighter]

The best (and simplest) oral rehydration recipe is:
8 teaspoons of sugar
1 teaspoon of salt
1 litre of water

Dissolve the sugar and salt in the water and sip often.

If you're going to drink fruit juice, you're best to dilute the juice 50/50 with water. You can also mix 50/50 juice and the oral reydration fluid above (improves the flavour of both, IMO!)

This is a very useful subject to remind ourselves of at this time of year.

who the hell would need to drink that??? Ok, iv'e been dehydrated, I won't get into it but basically heat stress/exhaustion is a part of the job, especially when training.........and I have to say, water is all you need, I don't care what anyone says, regular water drinks keeps everyone standing, if someones wobbling it's time for forced hydration-dress down, then keep going- if your that dehydrated you need to drink that it may be time for a drip.....or a new spine if it's just from riding!!!!!

[Jantar]

.... I don't care what anyone says, regular water drinks keeps everyone standing, ......

Water alone is fine as long as you are also eating regularly. Water alone will not replace thr trace elements that you lose through sweat, but as you stop for lunch, you will usually replenish these from your food.

However, people who may go for long periods without eating, (eg a 5+ hour glider flight, or a long motorcycle ride like a 1000 miler or Southern Cross) need more than just water.

On long rides I tend to have a good brunch before starting the day, and only minimal food until the end of the day. This is when fluids with something extra is important.

[wbks]

Errr... actually an intravenous technique but you know... whatever floats your boat...

Haha is that like a drip? Guess I forgot?
Did you tell her its the only way to fix two types of headache at the same time, sinfull?