Assumptions

[BMWST?]

....its the 'Assumption' that is made after the fact, that I am pointing out.

ahaaa i missed that nuance.....sorry my bad

[Maha]

Doing things right and safely is good but even then, on our best behaviour, trying to make safe progress, the buggers will still hunt you down and mess you up.

Coming to the end of a small town yesterday in a fifty zone, doing fifty,in the middle of my lane. The 100k sign is looming large about 300 metres away, when I noticed a white car swerving from side to side behind me. I interpret this as an impatient bastard trying to find a way around me cause in his/her opinion I should be doing 100k by now despite kids trying to cross and joining traffic ahead.

I guess this, woman, as it happens, was very important because taking 5 seconds of her journey was worth risking her, mine, and a few pedestrians lives as she whisked past about six inches off my right hand side, crossing the centre line into oncoming traffic and on collision course with the kids, two of which ran for cover.

Come the 100 zone and she's smug as, cause she's managed to get her rusty pile of crap up to about 65 now and about 1 nanosecond later the naughty gentleman biker, father of seven and lover to thousands, glides on by on a whiff of throttle.

So there we have it, a pointless stupid and dangerous episode that achieved absolutely bugger all apart from simultaneously scaring the bejesus out of about ten people. Lord give me strength.

Oh how the worm did turn on that occassion Marty!
Yes I certainly love it when that kinda thing happens.
No assuming in this instance, just a gratified biker, with a wee smirk on his face at some stage?

[martybabe]

Oh how the worm did turn on that occasion Marty!
Yes I certainly love it when that kinda thing happens.
No assuming in this instance, just a gratified biker, with a wee smirk on his face at some stage?

Well only that because I was doing fifty in sight of a 100k sign she must have assumed that I was going to continue to hold her up on a 1400cc bike 10 seconds later when we hit the 100k zone.

More in line with your story, I can't help wondering if my little scenario had gone horribly wrong with several people injured, would people automatically assume that simply because a bike was involved in the carnage, that I was obviously at fault, to some degree.

Perhaps that has more to do with paranoia from reading all these biker down threads where (some) people will assume that you are always, somehow, responsible for the circumstances you find yourself in.

[Maha]

More in line with your story, I can't help wondering if my little scenario had gone horribly wrong with several people injured, would people automatically assume that simply because a bike was involved in the carnage, that I was obviously at fault, to some degree.

Perhaps that has more to do with paranoia from reading all these biker down threads where (some) people will assume that you are always, somehow, responsible for the circumstances you find yourself in.

Yes indeed, biker down threads become so opinionated very quickley, (I dont post in them) keeps the Mods on their toes thats for sure.

If I had of been hit/clipped by 'vanman' yesterday, eye witness reports would have pointed at me for doing something 'wrong'...in their eyes, thats my opinion anyway.

[gijoe1313]

All I can say is the pithy catch-all KB phrase :

"Burn them."

It is t3h wayz of de uber-l33t!

[smoky]

Not a possibility when you are overtaking....which essentially is what I was doing at the time. But may have been looked upon differently by the slow moving car drivers, I dont care about that so much....its the 'Assumption' that is made after the fact, that I am pointing out.

You presumed they were making that assumption, or assume they presumed that, but they may not of assumed what you presume they assumed.
They may of simply presumed the other guy was a dick, or assumed it anyway, and you assumed they presumed the opposite, I assume?

[Mully Clown]

If I had of been hit/clipped by 'vanman' yesterday, eye witness reports would have pointed at me for doing something 'wrong'...in their eyes, thats my opinion anyway.

Riding on the white line with oncoming traffic less than 100m away? It probably is classed as in the wrong.

[Maha]

You presumed they were making that assumption, or assume they presumed that, but they may not of assumed what you presume they assumed.
They may of simply presumed the other guy was a dick, or assumed it anyway, and you assumed they presumed the opposite, I assume?

Assumably you have cracked the code of the way I see it...we all can make an assumption that the other person is wrong....mmmm not always right.

Riding on the white line with oncoming traffic less than 100m away? It probably is classed as in the wrong.

When you put it like that yes!
But I was there and saw it unfold, as did a few others probably, and who said anything about 100mts??....or riding on the white lines?..I mentioned it yes but, sooner or later, when passing other vehicals, you will at some stage ride on the white lines, I was not riding along the white lines, I am not that good. Once again, an assumption has been made and that is how easy it is done.
I could have said something like....''riding his arse''...or....''riding on the edge'' none of which are true, it is litterally speaking!

[far queue]

So I am a dropout uneducated non Shcool C reaching egg, but im a loveable dropout uneducated non Shcool C reaching egg

I assume you mean School?

I could have said something like....''riding his arse''...or....''riding on the edge'' none of which are true, it is litterally speaking!

I assume you meant literally in which case I don't want to know about you riding someones arse However if you actually meant figuratively speaking then that's OK

[FJRider]

I still fail to see how, after admitting to riding on the wrong side of the road (no matter how far), and riding on the white lines, then, having the cheek to lambast the van driver for "blasting his horn at you" (thats what warning devices are for). Then, you try to tell us you were riding safely...

[Kickaha]

Riding on the white line with oncoming traffic less than 100m away? It probably is classed as in the wrong.

Saw a classic example of that on the way home from Wangas, group of bikes go by, last rider on a RGV250 can't wait a few seconds for clear road and passes into oncoming traffic

[The Pastor]

apparently a few years after you go bald your distance judgment ability starts to fade. A side effect of getting old I'm afraid.

[FJRider]

apparently a few years after you go bald your distance judgment ability starts to fade. A side effect of getting old I'm afraid.

Being one-eyed doesn't help either...

[scumdog]

apparently a few years after you go bald your distance judgment ability starts to fade. A side effect of getting old I'm afraid.

Same thing seems to happen to males who lack the ability to grow facial hair...a side effect of being young/dumb/full of cum.

[AllanB]

Unless they have ridden a remotely newish bike, car drivers have absolutely no idea at all how quick a motorcycle can move. Thus a passing maneuver that you consider safe often looks like utter madness to the oncoming vehicle.

Having said that while driving my car I have witnesses plenty of acts of utter madness by motorcyclists passing on blind corners, too little gap etc etc.

I myself have been guilty of a few 'questionable' passing maneuvers over the years.

I recall a incident years ago, up Nelson way, when I was on a open road corner at speed and found on the exit a car going much slower. And a truck on the opposite side of the road. I ended up in the grass edging - still travelling at some speed, fishtailing like mad with a rooster tail of grass and dust flying up from the rear tyre.
I remember to this day (as it appeared in slow motion too me) the expressions on the faces of the cars occupants as this crazy motorcycle passed them on the inside, on the grass.
I entered the road ahead of them and disappeared, pants somewhat squishier than a few seconds earlier.
I was lucky, as were the car occupants, who just as easily could have had me implanted in their boot.

I assume they thought I was an idiot, and they were correct.