Assumptions

[Hitcher]

Billy Connelly once said about NZ drivers.....'' if you get passed, dont take it personally''.

The twat in the MX6 on the Rimutakas this afternoon would be advised to take heed of Billy's sage counsel.

[martybabe]

The twat in the MX6 on the Rimutakas this afternoon would be advised to take heed of Billy's sage counsel.

You didn't provoke a little RRR (Rimutaka Road Rage) by making swift, safe and legal progress, did you?. Naughty biker

[PirateJafa]

Sigh. There are none as blind as those who wish not to see.

[FJRider]

Sigh. There are none as blind as those who wish not to see.

An assumption...

[far queue]

I was heading south yesterday in my uav

You’ve got a UAV? Way cool man has it got missiles and stuff too? Huh? Huh? Hey hang on, how could you be IN the thing – the U being for UNMANNED and all? Oh well, carry on …

past wellsford/warkworth when I saw a chopper thingee

Ummm … Helicopter perhaps?

(one of those new zookies I think) behind, moved over for him but he sat behind so I carried on watching him

I haven’t heard of that make of helicopter. Are they Chinese? You should have blown the bugger out of the sky with one of your missles Oops, sorry to keep interrupting, carry on …

.....anyhoo he starts following a bit closer like he's gettin ready to pass, so I move over on all the straights so he can cruise through ( cause of all the stopped traffic northbound),

Must have been busy in the skies up your way today, couldn’t it just fly over or under you?

but he still hangs back, then as I get to the end of a straight approaching a blind right hander

Oh I get it, it must have been really cloudy and you’re only qualified for Visual Flight Rules. Sorry, do go on

and move back out the f****n retard passes me on the other side of the road

Road? Now you’ve lost me!

....and theres no farkin way he could see round the corner and he didn't complete the manouver till at least halfway round the bend!

What was the manoeuvre? Barrel roll perhaps? Damn tricky in a helicopter that one :

Not all bikers have a brain it seems.....cue katman

There’s some pretty dodgy pilots out there it would seem too. You meant SUV didn’t you! Still I guess you assumed I’d know what you were on about, sorry didn’t have the foggiest old chap.

[PirateJafa]

An assumption...

Exactly. It's pretty hard to avoid making them on the internet - if we were unable to make assumptions to the best of our judgement, most of the threads on this site would consist solely of the opening post.

If we actually go back to his opening post where he says "I would imagine that, the other road users assumed that I was the twat in this case, when in actual fact, I was indeed being a safe road user.", we see that he believes that it was a safe thing to do - and therefore assuming that the "other road users" were wrong in their assessments of the manuevre. Even though he was there, he's still only working off his own side of the story - he's assuming that there wasn't a legimate reason that the van wanted to move away from lefthand side of their own lane.

And judging by what he's posted in the social group as well, I must assume that either my other post was correct or he's just trolling. Neither of which would overly surprise me (maybe I'm just too much of a cynic).

[jrandom]

blah blah blah

I have this mental image of you bouncing up and down in your seat in front of the computer. Like a chipmunk.

[far queue]

I have this mental image of you bouncing up and down in your seat in front of the computer. Like a chipmunk.

Why would you make that assumption? There's no chipmunks here, I've run out of duct tape!

[jrandom]

Why would you make that assumption? There's no chipmunks here, I've run out of duct tape!

Oh, how we chortled.

Shut up now hey.

[FJRider]

Exactly. It's pretty hard to avoid making them on the internet - if we were unable to make assumptions to the best of our judgement, most of the threads on this site would consist solely of the opening post.

If we actually go back to his opening post where he says "I would imagine that, the other road users assumed that I was the twat in this case, when in actual fact, I was indeed being a safe road user.", we see that he believes that it was a safe thing to do - and therefore assuming that the "other road users" were wrong in their assessments of the manuevre. Even though he was there, he's still only working off his own side of the story - he's assuming that there wasn't a legimate reason that the van wanted to move away from lefthand side of their own lane.

And judging by what he's posted in the social group as well, I must assume that either my other post was correct or he's just trolling. Neither of which would overly surprise me (maybe I'm just too much of a cynic).

Why do most believe their assumption is (possibly) wrong... ???

Lack of good judgement is not ilegal....dammit... such is life...

[far queue]

Oh, how we chortled.

Shut up now hey.

LOL, that's just like your signature. I can feel the love ... and the disrespect

[PirateJafa]

I have this mental image of you bouncing up and down in your seat in front of the computer. Like a chipmunk.

I was thinking he's a little obsessed with Death_Inc, but hey, it's not my place to judge.

[Maha]

And judging by what he's posted in the social group as well, I must assume that either my other post was correct or he's just trolling. Neither of which would overly surprise me (maybe I'm just too much of a cynic).

Say bye bye to Mr PirateJafa.....
Its a wonder you didnt copy and paste what I said....

[PirateJafa]

I suffer not tolls lightly. Unless it's me doing it, in which case fe-fi-fo-fum!

[Macontour]

Well said Mystic13. Wise words indeed.

I mean if you're going to assume you could also assume that he was in a bit of a day dream on a pretty much deserted road tootling North when "Shit... there's a bike on my side of the road... WTF, I wasn't expecting that" maybe said bike moves over but he is fixated on this bike (still being a little freaked out to see oncoming traffic in his lane) so he fixates on the bike and toots his horn to say "Dude you really freaked me out - you know I'm not really expecting someone to be riding toward me... can you please not do that!". And of course he doesn't know about object fixation as we do and doesn't realise the van is actually turning toward you because that's where he's looking.


I do know that bike riders experience things a little differently. The cage dwellers can get a little glazed over. I know i can when in the car.

In defence of car drivers
- they are largely unconsciously aware of bikes unless they ride bikes.
- they do not appreciate the speed at which we accelerate and we just seem to come from nowhere. We have blistering acceleration.
- there distance judgement and vehicle movement calculation isn't set for bikes going quickly.


Bike riders assume
- that car drivers should be aware of the above.
- often seem to assume when passing a car late before a corner that they can do it if they have sufficient time to complete the pass even if a car comes around the corner. From many riders I've spoken to not many factor in "what if it's a bike that comes around the corner". I can tell you now if it's a bike going quickly that room you thought you had will be much shorter. Just out of curiosity how many here factor in "what if it's a bike going quickly coming around the corner?"
- that we have a right to perform at the speeds and level of acceleration we do even though other road users may not be able to process that.

Have you ever had the bike that comes out of nowhere and shoots past very close to you. This is what many car drivers experience. I wonder if it would be useful to start realising the dangers we impose on other road users because of the shear performance of our machines.

Them's me thoughts.[/QUOTE]