Don't I feel like a piece of shit.

[Motu]

I got a ticket for not wearing a helmet years ago. Just popped around the corner to the dairy and a copper came past. gave me a ticket too the bastard.

Did the same myself years ago - I was working on a problem DT175,I'd do something,put my gear on,blast up the road,come back to the workshop,fiddle some more,gear up go for another blat,come back and try something else.I was getting very frustrated,and at 4.30pm after one last final attempt to fix it I went for a blat 100m up the road without a helmet,I was in an industrial area with no one around - but wouldn't you know it,the bloody local traffic cop (in those days) was on the side of the road talking to a mate.I saw him pull out as I went past,so took him on a tour of the area before going back to work,he was a bit annoyed...maybe if I'd stopped before going past him I might of got off,but I was grumpy.Lesson learnt eh?

[ajturbo]

hey frosty...!!

not you fault!!!!


but thank you for this report... i WILL be showing it to luke...!!

if the only good thing to come out of this, is for luke to read this posting and think about what he is wearing when he is out there.

i thank you matey.

[Motoracer]

Tony, don't be se so hard on yourself, you tried, What about the parents/freinds, Like the others said, chances are if you did get heavy, he would have just laughed and told you to Fuck off.
Knowing you as I do, I think you would have done as much as was possible.

F/F

I second that. Hope you'll feel better soon Ton.

[Posh Tourer :P]

What was a 14yr old doing riding a motorcycle on the road? The clothing is not the issue here,who let him do it in the first place is where the blame lies.I hope it wasn't you who sold him the bike mate - do you know who did? go back to the cause,not the effect...

When I heard on the radio they said 15 :spudwhat: dunno if Tony is right, or they are.....

[crazylittleshit]

people make there own fate man Don't stress.

[Paul in NZ]

Christ...

14 / 15 year olds... You say one thing, they hear blah blah blah....

At that age I didn't need to wear a helmet so I would just tootle off to school without one on the AJS.... Mum got a bit annoyed when i rode the dirt bike to school (open pipes, open promary, no lights, no rego, no wof no nuttin it didn't need to actually run) but if I could I'd sneak off on it 'cos it was cool....

Shit happens... Every day. You do your best but being human, you can't be 100% all the time.... And even if you are... There is nothing to say it would have worked...

Paul N

[Motu]

Yeah,kids haven't changed in a million years - I'm like Paul (actualy,I AM Paul,but don't let's confuse things) at this kids age I was riding with less protective gear and with half his brain power...but I had God's personal protection.

But the bikes and cars have changed,this guy on his bike and the flying Subby in Hamilton,victims of inexperiannce with vehicles far beyond their capabilities to control.

Ban teenagers,fucking idiots...

[FROSTY:Me]

anyhoo you lot I've had to many mates die on bikes to say nothing even if the person Im tellin it it dont wanna listen.
I sorta hoped maybee a little had soaked in. We were talking abot bike maintainence,cleaning and propper gear. He was gonna get propper gear --when he could afford it.

[Paul in NZ]

anyhoo you lot I've had to many mates die on bikes to say nothing even if the person Im tellin it it dont wanna listen.
I sorta hoped maybee a little had soaked in. We were talking abot bike maintainence,cleaning and propper gear. He was gonna get propper gear --when he could afford it.

Always the way when you are a teenager mate....

A proper leather jacket was $350 or something totally outrageous way back then so I made do with old duffle coats and a plastic ski jacket. Padding? Armour? Why? It's not like I was going to fall off was it?

As for the dirt bike.... 80mph on the beach in a tee shirt, jeans and tramping boots.... Soon learnt a helmet / goggles (old welding ones with a clear lens) was a good idea but a jacket? An old rugby shirt was fine...

I mean. I bought a perfectly fine 500cc trumpy for $200... A jacket cost more than that......

Amazing we survived really....

Paul N

[Aitch]

tried to tell a 14 year old boy anything??? Remember the feeling of invincibility?? Tearing a strip off him would most likely only have made him lose what little protection he had.

[spudchucka]

Carry around some gory photos of bikie accident victims and thrust them in the face of these fools when you happen across them (sorry - don't mean to speak ill of the dead).

Other than that :spudwhat:. Apart from making it a legal requirement to wear full protective clothing, but then we head towards becoming a 'Nanny State', and we'd never see a Harley on the road again (dangerous generalisation alert).

I did a bike training course at the age of 15 and part of that course was to look through a photo album of horror crashes and injuries to motorcyclists. One that has always stayed with me was the image of a biker that was wearing jandles, (thongs if you are an Aussie). He put his foot down to negotiate a corner on his dirt bike, the jandle lodged into the dirt and the thong ripped up between his big toe and the the toe next to it. It was split right open with the big toe and half his foot almost detatched from the main part of the foot. Strangely enough I've always worn boots when riding any motor cycle.

[spudchucka]

that's another tragic loss mate, you can't help him now, but you may be able to help someone else... good on you for speaking up...
you can't save the world you know, save your own boy...

The dead guy himself may actually posthumously influence a number of his friends who have now witnessed human frailty first hand.

[Skyryder]

If you are going to slam into the back of a vehicle fast enough to kill yourself there's not a lot that you can do. It's dangerouse enough out there fully kitted.

No ones fault but the rider. Bummer all the same for family friends etc.

Skyryder

[marty]

hey frosty - i fixed up an unlicenced/un wof'd katana for a young unlicenced guy (he broke down outside my house), he went and rode it into the front of a truck 2 days later. what can you do?

[marty]

finding a road like this is always good therapy....