Who is in the right here?

[sunhuntin]

ok, this happened a few weeks ago, and its still bugging me. someone on tm said the van had right of way, while i think the van should have waited and treated the intersection as a giveway [its not marked as anything]
in similar situations, ive always waited, as i assumed the turning vehicle had right of way, given they are generally blocking my path.

had i been furthur forward in the turning lane, or quicker off the mark once the oncoming traffic cleared, chances are my right leg would have been mangled. ive attached a pic... hopefully its clear enough!

[Katman]

As it's an uncontrolled intersection you must give way to the van.

[Virago]

At an unmarked intersection, the "give way to the right" rule applies. In this case, the van has right of way.

[vifferman]

The van must give way to the purpley-pink lozenges blobbing along the road. You must also give way to them, and to the van (even though it's green). If it was a white van, it would be best to stay well clear of it, as they're the second most dangerous vehicles on the road.

[Badjelly]

...I think the van should have waited and treated the intersection as a give way [its not marked as anything]...

A lot of people share your view. The traffic regulations say otherwise.

[Nasty]

I have the rule this was

If in a car the other car hits the drivers door I give way ... if its the passenger door I get to go and the passenger suffers if I am hit.

Simple way to remember.

Harder on a bike.

[sunhuntin]

thats the same way i look at it, nasty. hence why i tend to giveway when im in the vans position. in this case, had i been in the car, he would have hit the drivers door.

viffer, in this case the van was actually yellow, but it wouldnt show up on the white background. around here, yellow vans are always exclusive brethern, and they are the WORST drivers on the road. had more bad experiences with them than anything else.

[Nasty]

thats the same way i look at it, nasty. hence why i tend to giveway when im in the vans position. in this case, had i been in the car, he would have hit the drivers door.

viffer, in this case the van was actually yellow, but it wouldnt show up on the white background. around here, yellow vans are always exclusive brethern, and they are the WORST drivers on the road. had more bad experiences with them than anything else.

Yeah he would hit my door I give way ... its actually the easy way to remember the law ..

[sunhuntin]

ahhh, hang on. i gotcha. was reading it wrong. why wasnt this on the scratchy?? this seems more important to know than what way should you indicate when turning right.

[pzkpfw]

As it's an uncontrolled intersection you must give way to the van.

Eh?

Please explain.

[klingon]

Eh?

Please explain.

Always give way to your right at an uncontrolled intersection.

In the diagram, it looks like there is a mark on the road showing where to stop. Officially this is not a give way sign, it is simply a guide to show you where it's safe to position yourself on the road. Therefore this is an uncontrolled intersection.

[klingon]

Check out the third diagram from the bottom on this page:
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...rsections.html

Looks pretty much like the one in sunhuntin's first post.

[yungatart]

Eh?

Please explain.

Gawd help us....

[pzkpfw]

Always give way to your right at an uncontrolled intersection.

In the diagram, it looks like there is a mark on the road showing where to stop. Officially this is not a give way sign, it is simply a guide to show you where it's safe to position yourself on the road. Therefore this is an uncontrolled intersection.

Ahh frack I'm colour blind!

I thought the red one was the van (or speed-read it and assumed the bottom one was the bike.)

Yep, in that case, yeah, of course.


(This is one that normal pisses me off, as people tend to think the "straight" road is the "main" road and think they have right of way over the people on the "side" road... lots of busy streets in my area have had Give Way signs put on them to take away the decision.)

[de_wood_elf]

Its an example of how nobody knows the 'proper' rules anymore since they let any man and his dog drive now days. If it were me in the van I would pull out since legally I have right of way (but I never do it on my bike for obvious reasons, the most being that cars can take a hit better than a bike).