Round and round we go...

[spudchucka]

and those 3 people each year will be ever so grateful.

Especially if its you or someone you love!

[StoneChucker]

Especially if its you or someone you love!

For some, thats one and the same :spudwhat:

[spudchucka]

Wouldn't it just be so much more simpler to indicate in the direction you intend to go? Like if I want to right then I indicate to go right as im coming up to the roundabout. And if I were to go left then I indicate left, or for straight I use niether. Tell me is there anything wrong with simple common sense? (other than the fact that hardly any cage drivers actually use thier indicaters)

The only issue realy is the people going straight. They should be indicating left as they intend exiting the roundabout. Andy Knackersack is saying they should indicate right as they enter and then left as they exit. Its better than what we have now with most people not indicating at all and just hoping that the intuition of other road users will see them right.

[Skyryder]

Don't have a problem with signalling when turning on roudabouts but this signalling when you are through (going ahead) is just plain silly.

I like a full hangrip on both handle bars in these situations. Some fuckwit decides to cut in on you while you are in the process of signalling...............just a dumb law thought up by some cage driver with not experiance of riding.

Skyryder

[Waylander]

The only issue realy is the people going straight. They should be indicating left as they intend exiting the roundabout. Andy Knackersack is saying they should indicate right as they enter and then left as they exit. Its better than what we have now with most people not indicating at all and just hoping that the intuition of other road users will see them right.

I'll agree with indicating left as they exit but indicating right when they enter is just silly. On most cars that have an auto-shutoff thingie (technical term that) if you were to turn the blinker (as the indicator shal hence forth be called by me) to show turning right, as soon as you turn the wheel left it will shut off. I think that would only cause more confusion. But then all this is still just assuming ( and yes i know what it means when you assume something you cheeky buggers) that drivers actually use the blinkers.

[bugjuice]

I was taught to ride/drive like that back in pomgolia.. there's lots there, that's different to driving here. Not everything is smelling of roses over there, I agree, and it definately relies on the drive actually switching their noggin on, but I think NZ needs to look at other countries and start pulling in the slack. I reckon the benefits would be less fender benders on roads, also, less congestion too.. Isn't going to solve everything, but it'd make it better. I reckon those who learnt to drive in the UK have got an edge over kiwi drivers (not pokin at kiwi's here ), but things like this 'new' round about law thing, in the UK, it's taught from the start to 'show' your intentions. Other things like keeping left unless overtaking - everywhere, not just where the signs say. You try undertaking in the UK!!!

I think this isn't a bad thing, just gotta get used to it.. Might even make cage drivers actually look harder before pulling out..

[Mongoose]

Don't have a problem with signalling when turning on roudabouts but this signalling when you are through (going ahead) is just plain silly.

I like a full hangrip on both handle bars in these situations. Some fuckwit decides to cut in on you while you are in the process of signalling...............just a dumb law thought up by some cage driver with not experiance of riding.

Skyryder

Where the phark is the indicator switch on your bike? Or do you have really really small hands? remember you indicate before you move, not as you move over.

[crashe]

Also according to the link above, motorcyclists are able to use bus lanes, im not sure if this has always been the case, but the officer that stopped me for it sure didn't think it was the done thing.

Ok I will read the rest of all the other posts after doing this... I have no idea if anyone else has covered this, but will soon find out when I go back and finish reading the rest.....lol.

Yes, you are allowed to travel on the BUS LANES in Auckland City where they are marked in green paint on the roads. To get proof of this contact Auckland City council and they will send you a letter of confirmation in the mail. Carry it with you at all times, in case you get stopped again by the police. You will not get a ticket. Do not hold up the buses thou... some bus drivers do get a bit snitchy, but you are allowed there.

BUT you cannot travel on the BUS LANES on the motorways. That is run by Land transport not Auckland city council. That is worth a $150 fine.

[bugjuice]

BUT you cannot travel on the BUS LANES on the motorways. That is run by Land transport not Auckland city council. That is worth a $150 fine.

huh.. didn't know that. I thought a bus lane is a bus lane.. I don't usually use the bus lanes on the highway, unless it's absolutely packed, then it's often safer and easier to use them.. Wouldn't otherwise..

And any cop giving anyone a ticket for using the bus lane really needs to use their manual! I thought that was common knowledge!

[Waylander]

All I know about vehicle designated lanes is that a motorcycle (no scooters or anything smaller than a 250cc) can ride in the HOV lane in the states even when not carying a pillion. HOV lanes for those that don't know are for cars carying 2 or more peaple when the highways and byways of the cities are so packed that traffic barley moves. And by traffic I mean nothing but a sea of cars, trucks, vans,busses and the occasional motrcycle filling up both sides of the road and all four lanes for miles and miles.

On another note I'm glad to be in New Zealand now where the road laws may be a bit more confusing but atleast there's no traffic.

[crashe]

On another note I'm glad to be in New Zealand now where the road laws may be a bit more confusing but atleast there's no traffic.

You need to come up to Auckland during peak traffic on the motorways.... and then say there is no traffic on the roads... its bumper to bumper....lol

[Waylander]

You need to come up to Auckland during peak traffic on the motorways.... and then say there is no traffic on the roads... its bumper to bumper....lol

Been there, done that and it's still nothin compared to back in Dallas, let alone LA. You want a town were you get off work at 5 but don't get home till 10 or 11, you just go for a nice ride through LA. But luckily it is legal for bikes to lane split through dead stopped traffic if they do not exceed 15mph.

[gav]

Theres a roundabout I go round every day coming home from work, Chch folk will probably know it , runs between QE2 drive and Marshlands road, twin lane sucker. Nearly saw an accident today where driver coming from Marshland Rd going stright through nearly got taken out by driver from Burwood side entering also going straight through, bit confusing cos if your on inside lane closest to the rounabout most people think you are turning, but the lanes indicate you can still go straight ahead. So how fast are you allowed to go, I get the tyres squealing pretty good coming around there at 50 km/h (89 Honda Civic hatch) I only aim at the flash cars that pull out on me, as hopefully they have insurance and I can get me a new car :spudwave: On the bike its too bloody scary as they can't really see ya enter coz there are these bloody big flax bushes and shit in the middle of the roundabout.

[dangerous]

runs between QE2 drive and Marshlands road, twin lane sucker. Nearly saw an accident today

Yip see that happen there all the time..... but FFS it is a simple action entering and exiting even if you cant see the hole bloody thing cos of the national park in the middle, then you get the oppisite affect were a car will sit there till all trafic has gone and they can see a clear rd all the way to dorkland....... its not that hard! people mack it so!

Don't have a problem with signalling when turning on roudabouts but this signalling when you are through (going ahead) is just plain silly.
Skyryder

this maybe so in Chch but I have a feeling the r/b's up north are much bigger were you do actually turn left into them and left again to get out (you do chang direction even when going straight).... where as Chch's are so bloody small that you can go straight through them and all traffic can see what you are doing all the time.

[dangerous]

3 people each year will be ever so grateful.

Especially if its you or someone you love!

Yeah, that is a darft thing for Mike to say......... but I dont think that is what he ment...... I think what he means is 'christ sake is there not more important issues to attend rather than a 3 death per year problem (even tho those 3 deaths is very important) but how about blind spot situations? put the money and effort into them 1st aye'