Round and round we go...

[dangerous]

Look what I found out about pedestrians...

bloody hell......... all that just for a pedestrian crossing, I think its easier to understand round a bouts..... good effort there crashe

[MikeL]

Doesn’t this add to traffic congestion by slowing down motorists needlessly?
The safety of other road users is worth the slight delay caused by stopping for a pedestrian who is not on your side of the road. At roads where congestion is identified as an issue, roading authorities may consider installing raised traffic islands or traffic signals to prevent unnecessary delays.

What, I wonder, will now happen at the Royal Oak roundabout...
The pedestrian crossing just to the north of the roundabout on Manukau Rd is already the cause of considerable delays and congestion, with vehicles often backed up through the roundabout. If vehicles now have to stop where previously it was legal for them to go through the crossing, the results will be more than the "slight delay" (minor inconvenience?). I can just imagine what installing traffic lights would do...

[Milky]

That pedestrian crossing is a highly stupid one - only enough space for a car or two to move off the roundabout before they have to stop for the crossing again. Why not move it 10m further up the road, so people have a chance to recover from the roundabout before tackling a new obstacle?
I am sure that pedestrian crossing has caused many many accidents where it is, beyond the one where I saw a m/c ride straight into the pole on the left after leaving the roundabout

[crashe]

That pedestrian crossing is a highly stupid one - only enough space for a car or two to move off the roundabout before they have to stop for the crossing again. Why not move it 10m further up the road, so people have a chance to recover from the roundabout before tackling a new obstacle?
I am sure that pedestrian crossing has caused many many accidents where it is, beyond the one where I saw a m/c ride straight into the pole on the left after leaving the roundabout

Yep and there is a pedestrian crossing just as you go around the roundabout heading towards the Te Atatu Motorway on Te Atatu Road near Foodtown. Its almost on the roundabout and it causes problems as it is now. It will be especially bad during peak time... as that is a main route. The pedesrtian crossing outside Foodtown is now controled by lights. So that roundabout is gonna be a flaming mess... worse than what it is now.

[jrandom]

Yep and there is a pedestrian crossing just as you go around the roundabout heading towards the Te Atatu Motorway on Te Atatu Road near Foodtown. Its almost on the roundabout and it causes problems as it is now. It will be especially bad during peak time... as that is a main route. The pedesrtian crossing outside Foodtown is now controled by lights. So that roundabout is gonna be a flaming mess... worse than what it is now.

Yup. I know two people who had their cages rear-ended while waiting halfway through that roundabout for people to get across that pedestrian crossing.

WHY do They insist on putting zebra crossings so close to roundabouts? Moving them a hundred meters down the road would seem to be a great idea in many cases, traffic-wise.

[crashe]

Yup. I know two people who had their cages rear-ended while waiting halfway through that roundabout for people to get across that pedestrian crossing.

WHY do They insist on putting zebra crossings so close to roundabouts? Moving them a hundred meters down the road would seem to be a great idea in many cases, traffic-wise.

Yeah I reckon.... and to top it off the police surveyours and Waitakere City Council were out on the roundabout to sort it all out, to help the flow of cars... yet what have they done, put lights on the pedestrain crossing outside Foodtown and you can get two cars in there if you are lucky... mind you with having Foodtown right there on the corner it has made the job so hard to sort it out. I hate taking my car up there during peak times.... will travel around those times if Im in the car. But on the bike I lane split.

[dangerous]

Well its been over 10yrs since I had a foot on the north Is, so things have most likely changed, but today I was driving around and was thinking about the r/b thing..... I went through a few and there was no way I could have indercated........ because they are too bloody small down here.
What happened if I tried is the indercater leaver made a bad crunch as I tried to use it while exiting, because the wheel was only just turned and it was trying to turn off as I tried turning them on.

The other thing and more importantly is as they are so small you basically drive straight through them, if I was to indercate then the car to my left would think I'm turning left NOT into the r/b....... same goes with exiting. In any case ther would be a pile up and more that 3 people would die.
So if a cop decides to make me an example for not indercating then I'll kick up all kinda shit.

BTW on the bigger r/b's I do indercate, as that what I learnt in Oz as I earlier said.

[Blakamin]

WHY do They insist on putting zebra crossings so close to roundabouts?

any intersections... they are just stupid.... you cant park within 6m of an intersection, but its alright to put a crossing there... FUCKWITS!!!

kapiti has a pisser... a roundabout (on the corner of the busiest and second busiest roads outside sh1) outside the cop shop, across the road from a school and 150 metres (max) from the lights... and then a crossing 30 feet up the road!!!.... its the only road off sh1 that goes towards where everyone lives ( the beach) for 6k one way and prolly 2 the other.. (there is one other small street that feeds onto the 2nd busiest)
quite fun trying to go anywhere between 3 and 6....

[Skyryder]

Where the phark is the indicator switch on your bike? Or do you have really really small hands? remember you indicate before you move, not as you move over.

My indicator ??.................left thumb. So it it onlly takes a split second to activate the switch................I am going straight ahead............so I indicate left............and the driver entering the roundabout from my left from my left thinks I'm turning left and moves out. But I am not turning left I am going straight ahead and according to the new law I am meant to indicate right. All this indicating change of direction when in fact I am going straight ahead. There is enough confused drivers out on the road as it is without me adding to their confusion.

Incedently try an evasive manoeuvre without your thumb on the handlle bar. Better still hit the gravel with your thumb off the bar and see how quickly you hold on tightly. And that is the key to control ................holding on firmly when the unexpected happens.

Still a dumb arse law no matter what....................

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Daughter lived in Holland for a year so. Got the right idea over there. Peds and cycles have no right of way. Don't pay road tax....................so no right of way on the roads. Think that's the way it is over there but could be wrong. Anyone know??

Skyryder