THE corner in the Rainbow

**PLUG** · 26th February 2009, 15:51

Originally Posted by Transalper

but from what I've seen outside in this world, the stupid people have a heap of kids when very young before their stupidity 'gets' them, where as the smart people just have one or two kids much later in life... if a stupid person don't kill em first.

bling to you my friend

**Deereboy** · 26th February 2009, 19:17

**buggsubique** · 26th February 2009, 19:32

awesome first post

. Have some bling!

**FJRider** · 26th February 2009, 19:47

Originally Posted by Woodman

My father was setting up the clip ons and rear sets on a classic bike in the shed once. The bike had no wheels on it and was on quite a high stand. he was sitting on it getting an idea of angles etc when the bike fell off the stand and he fell and knocked himself unconscious and spent 2 nights in hospital.

Was speed or stopping distance to blame in this accident????

Obviously the shed floor was far too high... should have got it lowered immediately...

**FJRider** · 26th February 2009, 20:02

Originally Posted by cooneyr

There is not many if any instances of this on public roads cause they tend to get dealt to quick smart. Doesn't mean this type of situation doesn't occur. Oil/deisel/slipery "stuff" on the road is the other aspect where the environment isn't/doesn't always giving you the full picture.

if you look at the pie chart at the top of page 4 titled "Who was at fault?" you can see that 58% of the time the riders is at fault, has primary or partial responsibility. Also 39% of the time it is clearly the responsibility of another party. Again - almost all is far to strong, crash causes are not that clear cut.

Cheers R

Point one ..... this is not about a corner on a public road and no comparison to one should be made, in this respect.

Point two..... Under the ACC's "no fault" insurance policy, little matters who was at fault. Hospital care is funded for those that need it.

Point three.... the "other party" is/could be, the station owner/manager... his views/opinions/intended actions, have already been reported in this thread.

Point four...... We are responsible for our own actions... and the results of those actions...

**cooneyr** · 27th February 2009, 06:12

Dude go back and read my post and read it again thinking about the context of the points you have made below. You obviously don't understand the intent, hence the intent of this thread. Your "points" are irrelevant and off topic.

Originally Posted by FJRider

Point one ..... this is not about a corner on a public road and no comparison to one should be made, in this respect.

Point two..... Under the ACC's "no fault" insurance policy, little matters who was at fault. Hospital care is funded for those that need it.

Point three.... the "other party" is/could be, the station owner/manager... his views/opinions/intended actions, have already been reported in this thread.

Point four...... We are responsible for our own actions... and the results of those actions...

**reofix** · 27th February 2009, 19:21

Warewolf.......500000k's on bikes and you know what ... it has NEVER happened.

FIGURE IT OUT!!!

**reofix** · 27th February 2009, 19:27

What a load of pomparse nonsense... He disagrees with you and you get to serve it up somehow... Not even!!!!!

**warewolf** · 27th February 2009, 19:44

Originally Posted by reofix

Warewolf.......500000k's on bikes and you know what ... it has NEVER happened.

FIGURE IT OUT!!!

I have figured it out, umm, we can skip all the my-dad-is-bigger'n-your-dad crap, or take it as said, whichever you prefer.

But I think you will find it happens more than you think; credit the road engineers who give the game away with signage.

**_Shrek_** · 27th February 2009, 19:46

Originally Posted by Transalper

Sounds good in theory, but from what I've seen outside in this world, the stupid people have a heap of kids when very young before their stupidity 'gets' them, where as the smart people just have one or two kids much later in life... if a stupid person don't kill em first.

Woops, I may be wandering

you calling me stupid

**reofix** · 27th February 2009, 19:53

And still ya reckon that the advisable speed goes from 200 to 20 without reason in a nano .. good luck out there

**FJRider** · 28th February 2009, 20:37

Point ....one.

Your words.....

Originally Posted by cooneyr

As for the so called experts - I'm a civil engineer and have been doing this sort of stuff (investigations and developing options) on public roads for almost 10 years.

**FJRider** · 28th February 2009, 20:43

Point ....two

Your words.

Originally Posted by cooneyr

On the 6th of April 2007 I was riding north through the Rainbow when I crashed into a ditch on the outside of a corner. Long story short I had to be extracted by a chopper as I had a broken neck. At the time I heard a bit of anecdotal evidence that the corner catches out a lot of people whether they are on two wheels or four. There was talk at the time of somehow marking/signing/altering the corner to try and stop the crashes but I thought there was a fair bit of stupidity on my behalf hence nothing was done.

**FJRider** · 28th February 2009, 20:47

Point ....three.

Your words.

Originally Posted by cooneyr

The Station Manager will not let a sign be put up so no risk of the road becomming "full of signs". Interesting to note though that DOC are doing a "good" job of putting signs on the remaining 60ish kms of the "Rainbow Road" that passes through the Molesworth. Only about 40kms of the "Rainbow Road" passes through Rainbow Station. THE corner is on Rainbow Station land.

**FJRider** · 28th February 2009, 20:50

Point... four.

Your words.

Originally Posted by cooneyr

Yes I accept responsibility for my accident but that doesn't explain why others keep falling off there. There was only 1 other crash at the corner on all three of the DB1k's to date. Most of the other crashes (there has been 10's of crashes I've heard of) have been on private rides. Going quick to complete the DB1k is not a valid excuse/reason.